So, I finally tried out PS3

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2007-01-10 02:37pm

My verdict: Best PlayStation ever!

I had a fantastic time, and will absolutely get one after I settle in post-graduation.

My friend bought his last week, but class was fairly lethal, so I never had a chance to go over till tonight. Headed over, and he was already playing Resistance. He has a 62" (?) Phillips plasma with support for all resolutions, and dear god that game looked fantastic. Though I've beaten Gears on every difficulty (not that it took very long), I've never seen it in HD, so Resistance was a little bit of a blow-away. I might get some HD Gears in by the weekend for comparison though.

re: Resistance, the weapons and multiplayer are awesome. I think I'll get it just for that, and I generally hate console FPS. 40 player is just so crazy.

SIXAXIS basically feels like a USB Logitech gamepad. Not a bad thing, but no rumble is a big loss. I hope Kutaragi mans up and hands over the cash to Immersion by '08.

PSN is really nice. The 20 vs 20 in Resistance never lagged once. I asked my friend about the various other bits of FUD being spread about it. He said he does get in-game messaging, does receive notification when added as a friend by someone else and does get voice. So much for "You need to pay to support the server infrastructure!".

Then we played what I went over there for, the GT:HD demo. Pants-creaming sexiness. I seriously think Polyphony might be using undocumented system calls, because Ridge Racer 7 didn't look anywhere near as good. The lighting and huge draw distances were great, and the car models were all superb.

Sadly no T5: DR, since the HK store trick doesn't work any more, so that will have to wait for the US release.

After we'd all taken our herbal anti-stress medication, we decided that fast food was in order, and the Blockbuster was right next to the Jack, so we picked up Underworld: Evolution on Blu-Ray.

HD movies are life. I swear I could count every werewolf hair and speck of pipe rust. I'm sold on HD movies on big HD screens.

So, graduation, move to AZ for the job, apartment, then Bravia + PS3 for me. This autumn is going to be spectacular

p.s. Wii's still my favourite console of this gen, but I'm definitely feeling the tug for an HD one now, which gives me one option basically.

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2007-01-10 04:14pm

Though from what I've played on PS3 in EB I am tempted but I do not see any difference between it and an Xbox360 with the exception of price.

Ubiquitous · Post by **Ubiquitous** » 2007-01-10 05:14pm

This is the first positive thing I have heard about the PS3 yet. Granted, I limit myself to but a few forums, but this is a moment to remember nevertheless. I never thought I'd see the day.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-01-10 05:52pm

I wish I could 'try' a console then commit to spending upwards of AU$1500 on games, controllers etc.

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2007-01-10 05:59pm

Stark wrote:I wish I could 'try' a console then commit to spending upwards of AU$1500 on games, controllers etc.

AU $1500 = 1,166.15 US$

Sony's performing anal intrusions on Antipodeans again?

atg · Post by **atg** » 2007-01-10 06:05pm

Xisiqomelir wrote:
Stark wrote:I wish I could 'try' a console then commit to spending upwards of AU$1500 on games, controllers etc.
AU $1500 = 1,166.15 US$

Sony's performing anal intrusions on Antipodeans again?

The PS3 console is AU$999. Games will be between AU$100-120, no idea on controllers, but probably ~AU$60-$70. That gets expensive.

So for the console and two games you could also buy three Wiis.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-01-10 06:07pm

Last I heard the fullspec version was going to be AU$1000, and if I want multiple controllers and a few games, that's hundreds of dollars - particularly since I don't doubt that PS3 games will be $110-120 average price.

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2007-01-10 06:10pm

atg wrote:The PS3 console is 776.592 USD

>25% markup. I can see how this engenders hatred.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-01-10 06:14pm

Xisiqomelir wrote:>25% markup. I can see how this engenders hatred.

Oh yes. I've actually seen stores here (since no PS3s yet) with signs advertising that you can buy a Wii, a 360, and several awesome games and controllers for less than a PS3 and a game.

Sam Or I · Post by **Sam Or I** » 2007-01-10 07:35pm

The PS3 is technically the best gaming system on the market, but the simple matter of fact, it is not worth the price. The grey market on ebay, you can pick the 60gb version up for about $450 dollars. This should have been the price to begin with. Blu Ray is what is killing the PS3 (And in return, the PS3 is killing Blu-Ray.) by making the system way to expensive. Very few people are considering buying the PS3 because of Blu Ray, which sony was Counting on. (It is the cheapest Blu Ray players on the market) They were trying to used a market strategy similar to a PS2 being used as a DVD player, which is why it was so sucessful in the market place, but the big difference was that the DVD format was already well established, and prices for DVD players were already dropping fairly low (in the sub $300 catagory). Unlike Blu Ray which is cutting edge, and players are still $600 plus, for a format that may not stick around.

Personally I think Sony needs to cut its losses with Blu Ray, and offer a cut down version of the PS3, with out the Blu Ray drive and go with the traditional DVD format, and maybe offer an external Blu Ray drive latter on like the 360.

JLTucker · Post by **JLTucker** » 2007-01-10 07:45pm

And let us not forget that the cunts at Sony decided not to include any HD video cables with the system.

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2007-01-10 07:46pm

Sam Or I wrote:The PS3 is technically the best gaming system on the market

You know, they're even having trouble making that one stick.

The PS3 has more CPU power, but the memory architecture imposes limits on the amount of stuff it can put on screen (Gears of War could not be run as it is now on the PS3, it would run out of VRAM), and the unified shader model in the 360 makes it possible to squeeze more out of it.

Also, early PS3 games have had shit HDR and some poor textures compared to their Xbox versions. (and this is likely to continue, as multiplatform games will be easier to build using the Xbox tools, as they are far more functional)

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2007-01-10 08:12pm

Sam Or I wrote:The PS3 is technically the best gaming system on the market,

Speaking from a technical standpoint, the Gamecube was the best gaming system from the last gen.

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2007-01-10 08:31pm

JLTucker wrote:And let us not forget that the cunts at Sony decided not to include any HD video cables with the system.

...because you can use your PS2 component cables

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-01-10 08:40pm

Yeah, everyone with a PS2 has component cables (ps, no they don't) and everyone who buys a PS3 and expects AWESOME NEXT GEN HD GAMING already owned a PS2 (ps, way to kill your market). It's *stupid*: Nanny McGee should be able to take her PS3 home and plug it in and be instantly awed by the awesome, not be forced to use poor cables until she buys more.

Count Dooku · Post by **Count Dooku** » 2007-01-10 09:00pm

Sam Or I wrote:The PS3 is technically the best gaming system on the market, but the simple matter of fact, it is not worth the price.

The RSX can put a mere 275 million triangles on screen, while the Xbox 360's GPU can put over 500 million on screen. The PS3 has more pure number chrunching power, but that's it...

Sharp-kun · Post by **Sharp-kun** » 2007-01-10 09:28pm

atg wrote: So for the console and two games you could also buy three Wiis.

So what? I don't care how cheap something is if it has no games I want. Yes I might spend less on the Wii, but if it goes as the Cube did then I'll hardly buy any games. Thats not money well spent.
Games wise if the PS3 goes as the PS2 did I will spend more on it, but get far more out of it in terms of games I'll enjoy.

atg · Post by **atg** » 2007-01-10 09:34pm

Sharp-kun wrote:
atg wrote: So for the console and two games you could also buy three Wiis.
So what? I don't care how cheap something is if it has no games I want. Yes I might spend less on the Wii, but if it goes as the Cube did then I'll hardly buy any games. Thats not money well spent.
Games wise if the PS3 goes as the PS2 did I will spend more on it, but get far more out of it in terms of games I'll enjoy.

I just thought that was interesting is all.

Resinence · Post by **Resinence** » 2007-01-10 09:40pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Sam Or I wrote:The PS3 is technically the best gaming system on the market,
Speaking from a technical standpoint, the Gamecube was the best gaming system from the last gen.

No point having the technical ability when the performance isn't there to do it.

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2007-01-10 11:52pm

Stark wrote:Yeah, everyone with a PS2 has component cables (ps, no they don't) and everyone who buys a PS3 and expects AWESOME NEXT GEN HD GAMING already owned a PS2 (ps, way to kill your market). It's *stupid*: Nanny McGee should be able to take her PS3 home and plug it in and be instantly awed by the awesome, not be forced to use poor cables until she buys more.

I have PS2 component cables (came with my 2nd-hand system). I'll be glad to put them to a use other than dust-collection.

Mad · Post by **Mad** » 2007-01-11 12:02am

Resinence wrote:No point having the technical ability when the performance isn't there to do it.

The GameCube's problem wasn't performance, it was games. The PS2 simply had more exclusive games that people wanted to play, which is why it won last generation despite being the system with the poorest performance.

Covenant · Post by **Covenant** » 2007-01-11 12:23am

Agreed. I really liked the Gamecube when it had stuff, like RE4, but it was so bogged down in Mario Sports and other such bullshit. The Wii is my current favorite by far despite being a graphical lightweight just because I'm hoping it'll lead to some more creative sorts of gaming. I really like the 360's beautiful graphics, but even Gears of War can only provoke so much wow before I'm kinda over it. My computer runs a ton of great games already, can be hooked to a TV, and has better peripherals. They really gotta suck it up and make some games.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-01-11 12:29am

Xisiqomelir wrote:I have PS2 component cables (came with my 2nd-hand system). I'll be glad to put them to a use other than dust-collection.

Did you just miss the point? Or do you not think shipping a system with teh ub3r gr4fx and shit leads is a good, sensible idea? I don't give a FUCK about your personal experience, and neither does anyone else: they didn't ship decent leads with PS3 and that's lame and stupid, particularly since it's supposed to be a fucking Blu-Ray player and HD gaming king. They sold it off the back of image quality you can't get out of the box.

Do you seriously think YOU PERSONALLY having leads makes it okay?

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2007-01-11 12:35am

Stark wrote:Do you seriously think YOU PERSONALLY having leads makes it okay?

115-121M installed base with #2 vg-purchasing country Japan at >65% HD adoption and #1 USA at ~15% adoption means lots of people have cables. I can see how this decision was approved.

Also, no reason for Sony to raise the sticker price another $50 just for throwing in a $20 cable

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-01-11 12:46am

You're so stupid it hurts. 'Decision'? 'Approved'? Are you a fucking zombie? Manufacturing-wise, it would almost certainly have cost a bare pittance more - Sony isn't going to fucking EB to buy fucking cables at fucking retail you fucking imbecile.

They 'approved' this 'decision' doubtless on arcane standarisation/HD ness, but you're seriously arguing it's okay and sweet that you can't get advertised performance out of the box because some people already had PS2 cables. You know, the PS2 cables most PS2 owners DON'T KNOW EXIST. But hey, you had some, so it's all sweet and not a big fat question mark AT ALL.

Just because they had to standardize and it's best to assume lowest level, doesn't mean it's not both hilarious and lame. People returned PS3s: how many of them did so because PS3 with shit cables looks worse than 360 at twice the price? Oh no, that could never have happened, because I bet everyone already had HD cables right?