Wh40k Landing question

[PainRack]

How fast can the respective armies of Wh40k land and deploy an assault force on a planet? I shall assume that due to the Orks haphazard and mobile economy, they shall have one of the faster deploy time second to the Marines, but what about the rest?

How fast would an IG regiment deploy onto a planet, set itself up and go into battle? An Eldar task force?


Similarly, has there been any "average" information on how long it takes for a tombworld to become "fully" activated?

[white_rabbit]

Are you looking at the entire logistical train here, or just how long from arriving in orbit to boots on the ground ?

[Chris OFarrell]

It varies quite a bit.

The Eldar for example use the Webway 99% of the time to simply step out onto the surface of a planet and deploy behind most planetary defense systems. When they can't do so, they fall back on the more tried and true insertion techniques from orbit, though generally trying to get through defenses with stealth and speed more then brute force.

Space Marine chapters are most often designed around a rapid deployment doctrine using Drop Pods and Thunderbolts to scream down into a hot LZ with heavy fire support from orbital strike cruisers or battle barges (or even Teleporters in some cases). Get in fast, blow the crap out of their objectives, then get out. Most of the time. It can vary a lot from chapter to chapter.

The Guard are generally the most traditional sort of attacking force. On major assaults, massive capital ships will clear an orbit of defenses (or at least enough of a planets hemisphere over the Area of Operations), blast surface to space defenses from orbit, then send in bombers, fighters and gunships to move onto more tactical level strikes. Defending of course how 'intact' they need the place. Then the troops will come down with heavy air support, offload infantry , then depending on the Campaign they'll bring in the heavy armor, arty, support units and so on.

The Necrons just come and go as they want. Given that a mere five of their light Cruisers could breach the defenses around frigen MARS itself, well...
They can also just use Monoliths if they are on the planet as a psudo webway gate to send in troops direct from tombworlds.

Da Boyz just generally crash an asteroid filled with them onto a planet, or a hulk, or whatever the hell they're riding in. Then they swarm out and start bashing and blowing shit up.

The Tau IIRC first ask politely if you want to join THE GREATER GOOD. If you make the mistake of saying no, I think their invasion doctrine is somewhat like the Guard in most respects.

[PainRack]

Are you looking at the entire logistical train here, or just how long from arriving in orbit to boots on the ground ?

More of the former. How long would it take to land an operational unit and then deploy and sustain it in battle?

To use an historical example, how long did it take for the US soldiers to land and establish a beach-head on D-Day? And then sorta reverse that for WH40k units.

[Darth Tanner]

Da Boyz just generally crash an asteroid filled with them onto a planet, or a hulk, or whatever the hell they're riding in. Then they swarm out and start bashing and blowing shit up.

Can I just ask how the orks are alive after this insertion technique? even with the whole fungus thing surely their incinerated from the impact.

[Keevan_Colton]

A lot of ork technology is based on latent psychic potential...they work because the orks believe in them...which is also why red wunz go fasta.

[Stormbringer]

Are you looking at the entire logistical train here, or just how long from arriving in orbit to boots on the ground ?

More of the former. How long would it take to land an operational unit and then deploy and sustain it in battle?

To use an historical example, how long did it take for the US soldiers to land and establish a beach-head on D-Day? And then sorta reverse that for WH40k units.

At least with the Imperial Guard it depends a great deal upon the regiments involved, the high command, and of course support from the Navy and Munitorium.

However, thanks to Armour of Contempt and The Sabbat Worlds Crusade we know that they can mount a full scale planetary assualt and establish an effective, working foothold in a matter of days with sufficient support.

Can I just ask how the orks are alive after this insertion technique? even with the whole fungus thing surely their incinerated from the impact.

Ork Roks are a bit more sophisticated than that. As are some of the space hulks they commandeer. Most of them time they have some crude control and ramshackle improvements.

Still, Orks have killed themselves with such reckless assaults many a time.

[NecronLord]

Can I just ask how the orks are alive after this insertion technique? even with the whole fungus thing surely their incinerated from the impact.

How are the guys in Acclamators alive at the end of Attack of the Clones? Such ork landings are actual landings. They just look a lot like crashes, due to being Orky.