Vista "Service pack" patchs released

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2007-08-08 09:23am

The quick and dirty: Explorer file transfer (copy/move) slowness looks to have been fixed (finally), hibernate and sleep now actually work as advertised (at least on my Toshiba R400), and a load of video card support issues have been rolled up. For those of you keeping track, the MD5 hashes on these updates match those that were leaked last week.

KB 938979, aka the "performance and reliability" update, addresses "poor memory management performance," as well as a handful of specific issues, including a nasty problem installing printers when User Account Control is disabled. Also gone is the ever-so-annoying networking flaw that would strike TCP/IP dead after a computer wakes from hibernation, and offline file synchronization is reportedly fixed, according to the release notes.

The big kicker, however, is the "file transfer" problem, which Microsoft describes as follows:

When you copy or move a large file, the "estimated time remaining" takes a long time to be calculated and displayed.

Those of you who have run into this problem know it by its true description: "takes forever just to copy a few hundred megabytes of data!" With the patch installed, file copying is certainly faster in my testing but still doesn't feel as fast as it should be. Nevertheless, it is a major improvement in my opinion.

KB 938194, also known as the "compatibility and reliability" update, should probably be called the "now you can play games with your computer" update. It purports to address a handful of gaming-related problems, including compatibility issues with NVIDIA's G80 series of cards. The lame printer spooling bug that was afflicting many of you has also been addressed.

chitoryu12 · Post by **chitoryu12** » 2007-08-08 10:40am

This is why I won't buy Vista until they don't need to release new patches to fix such simple problems (what were sleep and hibernate doing before this patch?).

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2007-08-08 10:42am

chitoryu12 wrote:This is why I won't buy Vista until they don't need to release new patches to fix such simple problems (what were sleep and hibernate doing before this patch?).

Working on and off.
Uh...then why would you ever buy an operating system? Windows XP still gets large patchs every few weeks, Linux is in constant development, OS X has had, I think, over 8 major patchs in a year.
What the fuck do you think this is? Automagically written software?

chitoryu12 · Post by **chitoryu12** » 2007-08-08 10:54am

No, it's just that these are problems that could have been solved simply by testing the functions before shipping them out. Do Windows XP, Linux, and Mac have common functions that don't work correctly when released?

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2007-08-08 10:56am

chitoryu12 wrote:No, it's just that these are problems that could have been solved simply by testing the functions before shipping them out. Do Windows XP, Linux, and Mac have common functions that don't work correctly when released?

*cough* No more then 120GB hard drives. *cough* WinXP release edition. Macs itiratively release, so no, but that comes at the expense of featureitis and price. Linux...THINk for a second. Nevermind that no, alot of USB support, nevermind Wifi, didn't work that well untill recently.

chitoryu12 · Post by **chitoryu12** » 2007-08-08 12:05pm

You're right about that, I'm afraid.

Resinence · Post by **Resinence** » 2007-08-08 04:38pm

Ace Pace wrote:
chitoryu12 wrote:No, it's just that these are problems that could have been solved simply by testing the functions before shipping them out. Do Windows XP, Linux, and Mac have common functions that don't work correctly when released?
*cough* No more then 120GB hard drives. *cough* WinXP release edition. Macs itiratively release, so no, but that comes at the expense of featureitis and price. Linux...THINk for a second. Nevermind that no, alot of USB support, nevermind Wifi, didn't work that well untill recently.

Don't forget that those with a 965 chipset board can't install most distro's even a year after the chipsets release now, due to problems with ISOLINUX and jmicron raid

Yes, I am annoyed.

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2007-08-08 06:06pm

Ace Pace wrote:Macs itiratively release, so no, but that comes at the expense of featureitis and price.

AFAIK OS X costs less at retail than Pasta Ultimate.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2007-08-08 06:14pm

Xisiqomelir wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:Macs itiratively release, so no, but that comes at the expense of featureitis and price.
AFAIK OS X costs less at retail than Pasta Ultimate.

Apple makes up for it by having much more expensive hardware. Not that I have a clue what "Pasta Ultimate" is, unless this is another retarded nickname for something Microsoft related that makes no sense whatsoever without context.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2007-08-08 06:27pm

Xisiqomelir wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:Macs itiratively release, so no, but that comes at the expense of featureitis and price.
AFAIK OS X costs less at retail than Pasta Ultimate.

Is this before or after you bought OS X for the fourth time? And if you're going to compare them that way, you might as well compare OS X with the upgrade version of Vista. It's not as if you can buy a Mac without getting OS X. Oh, and getting Ultimate is retarded for most people.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2007-08-08 07:30pm

Resinence wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:
chitoryu12 wrote:No, it's just that these are problems that could have been solved simply by testing the functions before shipping them out. Do Windows XP, Linux, and Mac have common functions that don't work correctly when released?
*cough* No more then 120GB hard drives. *cough* WinXP release edition. Macs itiratively release, so no, but that comes at the expense of featureitis and price. Linux...THINk for a second. Nevermind that no, alot of USB support, nevermind Wifi, didn't work that well untill recently.
Don't forget that those with a 965 chipset board can't install most distro's even a year after the chipsets release now, due to problems with ISOLINUX and jmicron raid Yes, I am annoyed.

Um, Ubuntu fixed that awhile ago, I'm running it on my p965 P5B Deluxe. There are other issues, this isn't one of them.

Wifi support is lacking on my P5B Deluxe though, which uses a shitty Realtek USB chipset, and doesn't support WPA on Linux
(but I used wired ethernet for desktops anyway, the wireless is primarily for using it as an access point for the DS, which works (on Linux) ). Core 2 temp settings aren't supported in Feisty's kernel.

I sometimes wish I was still using Debian Sid w/ it's bleeding edge updates, but the ubuntu patches to things are nice, plus less of that "Freedom" stuff (Iceweasel anyone? )

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2007-08-08 09:00pm

General Zod wrote:
Xisiqomelir wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:Macs itiratively release, so no, but that comes at the expense of featureitis and price.
AFAIK OS X costs less at retail than Pasta Ultimate.
Apple makes up for it by having much more expensive hardware. Not that I have a clue what "Pasta Ultimate" is, unless this is another retarded nickname for something Microsoft related that makes no sense whatsoever without context.

Odds are good it's a reference to what 4chan has dubbed "copypasta", which if I remember right is the practice of copying and pasting a large block of text and editing key portions of the text, then posting.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2007-08-08 09:06pm

Uraniun235 wrote:
Odds are good it's a reference to what 4chan has dubbed "copypasta", which if I remember right is the practice of copying and pasting a large block of text and editing key portions of the text, then posting.

Retarded nickname then. Gotcha.

Resinence · Post by **Resinence** » 2007-08-09 06:16am

Um, Ubuntu fixed that awhile ago, I'm running it on my p965 P5B Deluxe. There are other issues, this isn't one of them.

I realise it was fixed in ubuntu and kubuntu (but not xubuntu), but it IS still a problem, the latest SUSE, Mandrake, Debian, Slackware and Gentoo discs all fail when attempting to detect the dvd/cd drive. It is definitely not fixed yet.