You with a army of Terminators vs the world of 1930 (RAR!)

[Zor]

This is getting back to RAR! Basics.

Q Bla bla bla and as such you have been sent back in time to 1930 to one of three locations, depending on your choice

1-Montana
2-Omsk Oblast
3-Northern Territory 200 kilometers south of Darwin

Either way, you get a facility of comprable strength and size. A Eight Square kilometer Complex with ten meter tall concrete walls guarded by Twelve turret mounted Goalkeeper CWIS cannons. As well as a well stocked luxury bunker/command post, the Facillity has several automated Factories and is located over a mineral deposit with sufficient material to supply.

Your current army is a force of 50,000 Cyberdyne Systems T-800 Terminators that are loyal to you. The factories can turn out an addditional 250 T-800s a day along with spare parts. They are armed with Mills bombs, PRG-7s, M224 Mortar and FN MINIMI, all of which can be produced in the factory's armamants factory, as well as ammo for the defense cannons. A network of Comm. Satilites has been put into orbit for communicatation from anywhere in the world. The basic T-800 is Endoskeleton only, but you do have a skin growth chamber allowing recreation of a human that you have a blood sample of.

It is also capable of producing WW2 Jeeps at a rate of 15 a day, as well has having a petrolium production system capable of producing 25,000 liters a day from raw organic material. As well, you have the blueprints for B-17 Flying Fortress bombers, II-10 Attack aircraft and Mk VI Spitfires as well as spare parts, ammunition, yadda yadda yada and Terminators can operate them, but the automated Factories can not produce them.

What do you do?

Zor

[Mr Bean]

Darwin is Australia?
And Omsk is in Kazakhstan?
And Montana is in Jesusland right?
Hmm

Setting myself up as a super power in Australia is temping, use my Mechancial menace to conquerer Australia is temping as all hell.

No matter which way I look at this, it looks like Zor crafted this senario specifcly for one purpose.
Supervillany

I'm mean seriously, you have a giant base defended by gatling guns that can shoot artillery down, carve right through tanks of the time and with loyal soldiers who can survive anything short of 75mm and above artillery guns and don't need to sleep or eat either.

I'm tempted to set up the great Republican of the South, ruled over by the Benevolent Leader and his Mechno-Men who will bring peace and prosperty to us all, or else.

Hell might as well give it up and just start calling myself Doctor Doom.

[Master of Cards]

Montana is next to Canada and the Rocky Mountians Mr Bean.

[Ford Prefect]

I'm practically certain that these threads are entirely so that Zor can steal our ideas and use them for his own nefarious world domination plans involving dinosaurs, robots and 1960s vintage miltary equipment.

Incidentally, I have 50,000 nigh unstoppable robot skeletons in Australia of the 1930s, along with more mundane but still awesome equipment at my fingertips, along with the ability to fuel these things with petroleum derived from organic material. The first thing I do is get myself a cloak, a scythe, the ability to float and start calling myself the Nightbringer.

[darthdavid]

I choose Montana.

I make a push for Billings then use Hijacked trains to take my forces into Chicago. Once I've taken the city I'll take Detroit as soon as possible. I don't want to spread my forces out too thin so I'll spend a few months using forced labor to retool local production to suit my needs while making feints in odd directions to keep America off balance and to keep them from besieging me.

Once I've got Detroit turning out War machinery for my Terminator army I'll smash my way south east from my Montana stronghold and attempt to gain control of the cross-country rail system and the Country's breadbasket in one go. With the Dust-Bowl already disabling a significant portion of the country's agriculture then by holding a good chunk of the still productive land and cutting off rail access between the parts of the country not in my control then I should be able to starve a fair portion of the country into my submission.
From there, THE WORLD!!!

[Gullible Jones]

Hmm. 1930... Hitler would be doing some nasty shit in Europe shortly, the Terminators would be invaluable there.

On the other hand, 1930 is when the Great Depression starts, and I have to wonder how the introduction of future tech would affect the economy. If I could put a stop to the Depression, it might prevent the dictators from gaining too much of a hold in the first place; if Germany doesn't get screwed so badly, then Hitler might never rise to power.

Problem 1: Terminators are sapient, aren't they? Using them to study 21st century technology could be problematic then, since that would most likely involve disassembly. Being fanatically loyal, they might volunteer for it, but that still produces ethical issues.

Problem 2: I might be able to jump-start the development of advanced technology, but there'd need to be restrictions on what could be done - producing self-aware AIs might lead to the Skynet situation all over again. There'd have to be some kind of ban on the production of new AGIs, which the Terminators might be able to help enforce.

Problem 3: This is assuming that 30s scientists can make any sense of how a Terminator works. Presumably I'm not allowed to bring back any textbooks?

[Peptuck]

Incidentally, I have 50,000 nigh unstoppable robot skeletons in Australia of the 1930s, along with more mundane but still awesome equipment at my fingertips, along with the ability to fuel these things with petroleum derived from organic material. The first thing I do is get myself a cloak, a scythe, the ability to float and start calling myself the Nightbringer.

Dammit, Prefect, that was my plan, too.

[loomer]

Tireless robot followers? With greater strength and resilience than humans?

I beat Ryan to the punch and build Rapture using the factory to pump out the needed parts rather than war materials. This assumes I can manage the materials right.

If not, well, I can always make Rapture out OF the terminators by welding them together into an airtight sphere.

[K. A. Pital]

The "Great Perelom" of technology arrives, I capture the world.

Really, that's silly.

Pax Robotica! The tech disparity is so huge that such a scenario makes it pretty certain that you can get the world.

[Ariphaos]

I think a much funner version of this would be something like you going back in time to lead the united Earth in stopping such a force.

[K. A. Pital]

I think a much funner version of this would be something like you going back in time to lead the united Earth in stopping such a force.

Only heavy weapons can stop a Terminator with sufficient destruction to the carrying carcass, or permanently destroy one. A really united earth could wipe the Terminators out, technically - and atomic weapons are only 15 years down the line, aren't they? Technically even such an army wouldn't be able to capture an actively resising and united Earth in such a small time.

[weemadando]

Fuck the Minimis.

I have 50,000 guys that can comfortably swing around a M2 Browning and fire it with Carlos Hathcock level accuracy.

Arm them thusly and nothing short of the tanks of the day and fortifications would be impervious, even aircraft flying within range would be fodder for perfectly plotted shots to take out pilots, engines etc.

Given their insane resilience it would take at least a HMG to really threaten them. And anti-tank guns would be the best bet. But lets face it, anti-tank guns vs high speed man-sized targets? Not great odds.

Infiltrators would be tasked to get close to every world leader, important scientists, engineers, influential economists and industrialists. Then, at any given time pressure can be applied as required, or important people lifted at request.

Imagine pulling the central core of scientists from the Manhattan project, German nuclear projects, various rocket projects and the like all early in the piece (say 1931 or so to give infiltrators a chance to embed) and grouping them together at your impregnable doom fortress to build some amazing project to inspire the world. Or dominate it.

Another option, simply because I'm a total goddamn douchebag is to have a team of black, asian, "jewish" and other such unsavoury "skinned" infiltrators absolutely fucking clean up at the 1936 Berlin Olympics. I mean, ensure that not a single white person makes the finals, let alone wins a medal. And make sure that Leni Reifenstal captures every sweet moment of it. Particularly the Fuhrer's bitter, angry tears.

I'd probably start in Australia and create myself the great Southern Empire. Announce our annexation of Australia, NZ, and really, everything up to mainland China. See how many people are keen to argue. And with production of 250 a day it's no laughing matter.

Then again, starting in Kazakhstan and suddenly taking over the entire Middle East and central Asia to secure an obscene amount of oil wealth is very tempting too.

Overall? I'm thinking take the Australian start and keeping fairly quiet (except for naturally, annexing where necessary). And then, using my "appropriated" talent, start to build a better world.

And if I can't do that, then at the very least I'd create a UN type thing. And you can be sure that when people start kicking up a fuss, killer robot peacekeepers who are quite willing and able to "keep the peace" will ensure that some of the worst events of the century don't occur.

[Shroom Man 777]

I'd take Central Asia and I'd extend my grip to make the Middle East a better place.

A place where people of all colors, creeds, nationalities, and faiths will no longer be exploited by the wiles of foreigners and their unmitigated greed! Where lands are no longer ravaged for natural resources, leaving the people to flounder and degenerate into barbarism and desolation! I will forge a new destiny for these people, to protect future generations from the manipulations of the world's superpowers! This is the liberty we've won for ourselves! OUTER HAVEN!

Yes.

So fuck Montana and Australia, those places don't need my Great Justice. LIQUIDIA!

[AMX]

Problem 1: Terminators are sapient, aren't they? Using them to study 21st century technology could be problematic then, since that would most likely involve disassembly. Being fanatically loyal, they might volunteer for it, but that still produces ethical issues.

*ahem*

The factories can turn out an addditional 250 T-800s a day along with spare parts.

You have the plans. No disassembly required.

[Darth Yoshi]

The factories are likely automated, which doesn't help if you're trying to build a doomsday device or twenty using the new tech.

[Rye]

The factories are likely automated, which doesn't help if you're trying to build a doomsday device or twenty using the new tech.

What doomsday device could you make out of terminators?

[Shroom Man 777]

Then get the Terminators to build it for you! Have them create a Giant Pyramid of DEATH!

[Darth Yoshi]

What doomsday device could you make out of terminators?

*shrugs* I'm sure you could come up with something. But the point is moot if you can't get a good look at the underlying technology in the termies.

[Paolo]

1. Take up residence in Montana.
2. Send a Terminator death squad after Hitler and Tojo.
3. Make a pile cashing in on the B-17 four years before Boeing.
4. Move to Hollywood, open a studio, and spend the rest of the '30s and '40s "discovering" screen starlets.

[Darth Wong]

At 250 units per day, by 1940 you would have nearly 1 million Terminators.

Of course, you would still be limited to the sealift capabilities of the day, so overseas expansion would be more difficult than conquering the continent you're on. But then again, the existing defenses against an amphibious landing would be pitifully inadequate for stopping your mechanical army. Imagine D-Day, but with waves of Terminators pouring onto the shore while ignoring machine-gun fire.

The logical place to conquer would be America, because of its superior industrial base. The knowledge that Europe would soon wipe out its own industrial base is just icing on the cake; it makes the conquest of the rest of the world that much easier, provided you are patient enough to wait until WW2 is inevitable before unleashing your armies of doom.

[Molyneux]

The factories are likely automated, which doesn't help if you're trying to build a doomsday device or twenty using the new tech.

What doomsday device could you make out of terminators?

A giant Terminator. Made out of Terminators. And armed with a gun that fires shells which open on impact and more Terminators come out.

First things first - I'd probably go for Darwin or Omsk rather than Montana, as I don't really fancy taking on the U.S. military if I can avoid it. Find someone German, get a blood sample (hell, pay them for it, no need to get rough), build an infiltrator with their appearance and send it to assassinate Hitler. I'd probably try to use them as a peace-keeping force rather than conquer the world or anything - and in the meantime, put my 50,000-and-rising tireless robotic armies to work. Plant crops, build cities...the amount of good that could be done with that much manpower at my command would be staggering.

[K. A. Pital]

The logical place to take would be America (especially given a good industrial base but pretty simple land arms). But preventing WWII in Europe looks like an important goal.

[andrewgpaul]

At 250 units per day, by 1940 you would have nearly 1 million Terminators.

Of course, you would still be limited to the sealift capabilities of the day

The Bering Strait freezes, doesn't it? In Omsk or Montana, you can get to Eurasia, Africa and the Americas eventually. Other than that, how waterproof is a Terminator? Just let the fuckers walk the English Channel, and possibly other waterways.

[weemadando]

America as a starting point has several natural advantages.

1) Massive industrial base and established infrastructure.
2) Isolation from immediate retaliation.
3) Connected to Canada and Central and South America. Caribbean also easily annexed.

Disadvantages:

1) A really quite effective military, even at that time.
2) Very large population to control.
3) Connected to Canada and Central and South America. Caribbean also very close.

[frogcurry]

I'd go for Australia for the hidden nature of the location, allowing initial build up, expansion and infiltration. Then after about 5 years, I send all of my soldier Terminators out. Walking. Across the seabed.

Indonesia, Japan, Hawaii, Siberia, Los Angeles... the world. Simultaneous invasions from the sea (maybe send nearer by boat first, then drop them overboard just to make things faster).

Total surprise, and if it should fail everyone thinks they came from under the sea, from a base located somewhere in the Pacific ocean. While I'm in a luxurious hotel in Sydney surrounded by my faithful terminator servants...