My personal favorite is #4. Apparently, supporting the sides of issues that "divides America" is wrong, despite how correct he may be.#9) Being an unacknowledged gaffe machine. The Obacons simply look like age bigots when the they point out the gaffes of John McCain (100 years, knowledge on economics, etc.) when their own messiah has misspoke on a regular occasion (noting the 57 U.S. states he's visited, saying America was no longer great, saying 10,000 people died in KS tornadoes (it was actually 12 total), claiming in Selma, AL that their civil rights struggle is what brought his parents together (he was off by 5 years) and saying small nations - like Iran - with small defense budges can't harm America). In the world of 24/7 politics, people make gaffes. A new style of politics would be to hold your opponent to the same standard you'd like to be held.
#8) Running in the Democrat primaries as George McGovern minus the experience (pull out of Iraq asap, surge won't work, chit-chat with Iran and Cuba, no domestic oil drilling, etc.) and then running as Mike Huckabee in the General Election (faith-based programs, heartland values, against affirmative action, pro-FISA, pro-Bush pre-emption doctrine, pro-Bush energy policy). America hasn't been asleep. We saw both sides of Obama and how he's left himself very little residual trust or authenticity. He presents himself as nothing yet also everything. Again, not being afloat public opinion would be a nice trend and a departure from the old politics.
#7) Rejecting public financing. Simply put, Obama lied. He further damaged the brand he attempted to build as a practitioner of some sort of new politics when he attempted to justify his lying on the need to practice old politics. Dumb meet stupid.
#6) Having no resume. Obama has no accomplishments. No narrative of note to share with American voters. He was a law professor and legal editor without a single article or essay of note published. He was a community organizer, with no demonstrable contribution. Obama was a state senator with no signature legislation. He has been briefly a U.S. Senator (less than 300 work days), also with little to show for it. The only accomplishment of significance is authoring a book on his favorite topic - himself. As a bestseller, it only shows that Obama doesn't make mistakes when maximizing profits off his public service.
#5) Going negative first. Democrats like to repeat the talking-point that GOPers are more aggressive political campaigners than they are. Not true. But there is little doubt Republicans know how to fight hard for their ideas. Yet Democrats have always been nasty, negative and dirty in their political tricks. Obama adds another footnote to the point that Democrats campaign negative by launching the first attack ad against McCain.
#4) Dividing America. Obama has engaged in one of the - if not the most, in modern era - divisive presidential campaigns. His appeal to envy and avarice in an old school political class-warfare ploy would make even Upton Sinclair blush (profit bashing, taxing the 'wealthy,' etc.). Obama has appealed to the base nature of people, not the best within us. Employing the old politics, Obama is betting his political future on the worst in America's not hope in our better selves.
#3) Snubbing a national dialog. Obama rejected McCain's offer for a series of a national town hall Lincoln-Douglas style forums and exchanges. Instead, Obama opts for the old political tradition of simply three tightly scripted debates (one of them masquerades as a town hall). America is better served by a honest and full exchange. Either Obama is not up for it - lacking confidence in his own ideas or lack of them - or he's made some political calculation that what is best for America isn't great for him personally.
#2) Letting the election be about himself. This is an election about Obama, good or bad. People tell pollsters they want a Democrat President. But they don't know if they want Barack Obama. One of the biggest mistakes he's made is not making the campaign about something bigger than himself, like an idea. Instead it is simply a personality choice versus McCain's resume. Who would you hire?
#1) Counting on race. Obama's victory depends upon a racist sentiment. Meaning, Obama's campaign is expecting and building a base of voters who will vote nearly 10:1 for him simply because he is black. Manipulating the African-American vote is nothing new for Democrat politician but this is certainly the largest exploitation of it. Certainly this is not the mainstream media's view and they'd gauge this observation as impolitic. Yet is no less true and unfortunately, no less damaging to the fabric of our nation.
Obama's campaign has made plenty of strategic mistakes. But their opponents have generally made more. Tactically they have been more flawless. But their strategic faults have put them into the current funk.
The good news for Obamacons is there is plenty of time. The convention will give him a bounce. He'll be masterful in presentation during the three little Presidential debates. And he can always rely upon the mainstream media to cover-up most of his missteps. But like most important elections, we'll have a photo finish.
"Nice Obama Campaign Gaffes"
Moderators: Alyrium Denryle, Edi, K. A. Pital
- chitoryu12
- Jedi Council Member
- Posts: 1997
- Joined: 2005-12-19 09:34pm
- Location: Florida
"Nice Obama Campaign Gaffes"
Link
- SirNitram
- Rest in Peace, Black Mage
- Posts: 28367
- Joined: 2002-07-03 04:48pm
- Location: Somewhere between nowhere and everywhere
Greg McNeilly - Proof that if you are an even worse shill than Fox News will hire, AOL News will.
Manic Progressive: A liberal who violently swings from anger at politicos to despondency over them.
Out Of Context theatre: Ron Paul has repeatedly said he's not a racist. - Destructinator XIII on why Ron Paul isn't racist.
Shadowy Overlord - BMs/Black Mage Monkey - BOTM/Jetfire - Cybertron's Finest/General Miscreant/ASVS/Supermoderator Emeritus
Debator Classification: Trollhunter
Out Of Context theatre: Ron Paul has repeatedly said he's not a racist. - Destructinator XIII on why Ron Paul isn't racist.
Shadowy Overlord - BMs/Black Mage Monkey - BOTM/Jetfire - Cybertron's Finest/General Miscreant/ASVS/Supermoderator Emeritus
Debator Classification: Trollhunter
- Guardsman Bass
- Cowardly Codfish
- Posts: 9281
- Joined: 2002-07-07 12:01am
- Location: Beneath the Deepest Sea
I don't recall Obama making the same repeated mistakes (like McCain repeatedly conflating Al-Qaeda with Iran and the like). For that matter, his campaign has never brought that up, although no doubt some supporters have (but it's not as if he's responsible for every one of his supporters).#9) Being an unacknowledged gaffe machine. The Obacons simply look like age bigots when the they point out the gaffes of John McCain (100 years, knowledge on economics, etc.) when their own messiah has misspoke on a regular occasion (noting the 57 U.S. states he's visited, saying America was no longer great, saying 10,000 people died in KS tornadoes (it was actually 12 total), claiming in Selma, AL that their civil rights struggle is what brought his parents together (he was off by 5 years) and saying small nations - like Iran - with small defense budges can't harm America). In the world of 24/7 politics, people make gaffes. A new style of politics would be to hold your opponent to the same standard you'd like to be held.
Only an idiot would conflate McGovern with Obama. Did Obama say anything about drastic cuts in military funding, for example? It's just another attempt by desperate Republicans to pin him to some previous Democratic failure.#Cool Running in the Democrat primaries as George McGovern minus the experience (pull out of Iraq asap, surge won't work, chit-chat with Iran and Cuba, no domestic oil drilling, etc.) and then running as Mike Huckabee in the General Election (faith-based programs, heartland values, against affirmative action, pro-FISA, pro-Bush pre-emption doctrine, pro-Bush energy policy). America hasn't been asleep. We saw both sides of Obama and how he's left himself very little residual trust or authenticity. He presents himself as nothing yet also everything. Again, not being afloat public opinion would be a nice trend and a departure from the old politics.
He said he would like to work out some arrangement, not that he was definitely going to do public financing. For that matter, McCain's no saint on this himself - he tried to weasel out of public financing and the promise he made to back up his loan with said financing once he won the nomination, which he got called on for by the Chairman of the FEC (and got away with being the FEC is lacking a full commission right now).#7) Rejecting public financing. Simply put, Obama lied. He further damaged the brand he attempted to build as a practitioner of some sort of new politics when he attempted to justify his lying on the need to practice old politics. Dumb meet stupid.
That doesn't change the fact that he served in the various offices, and from what his colleagues have said, had a grip on them even if they weren't his ultimate destination.#6) Having no resume. Obama has no accomplishments. No narrative of note to share with American voters. He was a law professor and legal editor without a single article or essay of note published. He was a community organizer, with no demonstrable contribution. Obama was a state senator with no signature legislation. He has been briefly a U.S. Senator (less than 300 work days), also with little to show for it. The only accomplishment of significance is authoring a book on his favorite topic - himself. As a bestseller, it only shows that Obama doesn't make mistakes when maximizing profits off his public service.
For that matter, what did McCain do for virtually his entire legislative career before 2000? Apart from Keating Five, I can't remember a single major piece of legislation he passed or tried to pass before McCain-Feingold. McCain's arguably worse than Obama in that regard; he held national office for longer, yet apparently did less than what could have been done.
What about negative ads in the primary period? And that's not to mention the whole host of other nasty Republican attack methods, like celebrating books rife with falsehoods that would constitute libel were Obama not a public figure (John Corsi's latest "masterpiece").#5) Going negative first. Democrats like to repeat the talking-point that GOPers are more aggressive political campaigners than they are. Not true. But there is little doubt Republicans know how to fight hard for their ideas. Yet Democrats have always been nasty, negative and dirty in their political tricks. Obama adds another footnote to the point that Democrats campaign negative by launching the first attack ad against McCain.
As opposed to the Republicans playing to American paranoia and fear-mongering? If anything, Obama's "windfall tax on the oil companies" has been pretty mild.#4) Dividing America. Obama has engaged in one of the - if not the most, in modern era - divisive presidential campaigns. His appeal to envy and avarice in an old school political class-warfare ploy would make even Upton Sinclair blush (profit bashing, taxing the 'wealthy,' etc.). Obama has appealed to the base nature of people, not the best within us. Employing the old politics, Obama is betting his political future on the worst in America's not hope in our better selves.
I like debates, and I honestly wouldn't have minded seeing Obama participate in more. But let's be honest; all politicians play to their relative strengths in this campaign, and right now, this area is strong for McCain, since he's been doing them for a long time and it's free publicity.#3) Snubbing a national dialog. Obama rejected McCain's offer for a series of a national town hall Lincoln-Douglas style forums and exchanges. Instead, Obama opts for the old political tradition of simply three tightly scripted debates (one of them masquerades as a town hall). America is better served by a honest and full exchange. Either Obama is not up for it - lacking confidence in his own ideas or lack of them - or he's made some political calculation that what is best for America isn't great for him personally.
In any case, it's questionable how useful they are aside from trying to get honest answers out of the candidates (which doesn't happen in the debates anyways, for the most part, unless you get a tough questioner who follows up), and since American government doesn't have anything like a "Question Period", it's not as if Obama's going to be needing debating skills if/when he's in office - most presidential press conferences and the like are heavily scripted.
McCain has almost as little executive experience as Obama (i.e., some in the military, plus running his campaign). Much of the experience he's had is not exactly reflecting well on his executive abilities - when his campaign was successful and collecting tons of money back in 2007, he ran it into the ground until it almost knocked him out of the race, whereupon he came back by focusing entirely in an area he'd won overwhelmingly before. And that's after he'd had experience running a presidential campaign back in 2000.#2) Letting the election be about himself. This is an election about Obama, good or bad. People tell pollsters they want a Democrat President. But they don't know if they want Barack Obama. One of the biggest mistakes he's made is not making the campaign about something bigger than himself, like an idea. Instead it is simply a personality choice versus McCain's resume. Who would you hire?
This is incredibly amusing coming from the crowd that seems to lap up the whole "angry black man" and "muslim manchurian candidate" slanders.#1) Counting on race. Obama's victory depends upon a racist sentiment. Meaning, Obama's campaign is expecting and building a base of voters who will vote nearly 10:1 for him simply because he is black. Manipulating the African-American vote is nothing new for Democrat politician but this is certainly the largest exploitation of it. Certainly this is not the mainstream media's view and they'd gauge this observation as impolitic. Yet is no less true and unfortunately, no less damaging to the fabric of our nation.
“It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life.”
-Jean-Luc Picard
"Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them."
-Margaret Atwood
-Jean-Luc Picard
"Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them."
-Margaret Atwood