Chances of SG Atlantis movie: slim to none atm

[Vertigo1]

Straight from David Hewlett's twitter feed:

There's gonna be Stargate Atlantis the movie? (Stargate Extinction?) I feel like asking @dhewlett about it.

@privatehaven cast has heard nothing about Atlantis movie. I think the chances of it happening now are slim to none...such a waste!

@dhewlett Ah, damn. You're right, such a waste. It was on IMDB though, that's why I asked.

Such a waste indeed. Just when I thought there might have been some redeeming for the rushed series finale. Were the DVD sales for the SG-1 movies that bad to make Atlantis movies not worth it to MGM?

[Crazedwraith]

Can't say I'm too shaken up about that at all. SGA really went downhill.

Still I'm sure Mallozi's blog has been reassuring people that it would happen for ages.

Still I hope the 3rd SG-1 movie isn't going to suffer the same fate. The fact its going to be Jack-centric and Vala-less makes me have high hopes for it. Though I wonder if they're waiting to see how well the Children Of The Gods - Final Cut does before going ahead with it. Hopefully not because no-one's going to buy a re-release in place of new product.

[Darksider]

Why did they even bother doing that "Final Cut" thing anyways? they didn't add any new scenes, all they did was remaster it and cut out teh eeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvviiiiiiilll! nudie scenes.

[Starglider]

The SG1 movies worked because there were major plot elements that needed to be wrapped up, or were ripe for revisiting. In SG:A nearly everything was wrapped up by the series finale. IMHO the Asurans were defeated far too easily and should have been more of an ongoing threat, but what's done is done. I can only think of one significant remaining plot hook; the Mirror Universe Asgard (tm). Frankly I can't see a film based on that turning out well, and making them into a big bad would kind of spoil the way the Asgard were depicted throughout SG1.

[Crazedwraith]

I'd disagree. The Asurans never should have existed in the first place. Since they were a horrid retread of the human form replicators.

Plus they never really resolved to the wraith at all. They either need to go final solution on their ass or do a story line where its clear that Todd gets retrovirus to work as promised and the wraith are effective neutered into peaceful co-existence. The main story line of Atlantis, weak as it is, was not really resolved. THey just pulled off another lame "Earth is in Danger!!!" episode.

[Starglider]

I'd disagree. The Asurans never should have existed in the first place. Since they were a horrid retread of the human form replicators.

They were badly written. The concept was ok, but the execution was poor; a whole society of AIs has the potential for a whole new kind of alieness (and uncanny-valley creepiness due to their attempts to mimic their creators). This was only superficially referenced though, really they just behaved like arrogant humans with superpowers.

or do a story line where its clear that Todd gets retrovirus to work as promised and the wraith are effective neutered into peaceful co-existence.

How do you make that into a movie plot? It's just something that would happen, and be part of the backstory, but touring a galaxy of defanged wraith doesn't make for excitement. I suppose you could have one supervillain who refuses to accept the new order and tries to blow everyone up with a superweapon, but Stargate has done that so often it's getting a bit old.

[JME2]

Such a waste indeed. Just when I thought there might have been some redeeming for the rushed series finale. Were the DVD sales for the SG-1 movies that bad to make Atlantis movies not worth it to MGM?

The DVD sales were decent, from what I recall. I still hope this happens, though...

[NecronLord]

If you want to make the wraith threatening, it's simple enough. Wraith steal one of those Asgard cores. A flashback to when Todd had the Daedalus under his control, with him simply getting it to copy all data.

BAM. The Wraith are the most dangerous threat in the known universe.

[NecronLord]

I'd disagree. The Asurans never should have existed in the first place. Since they were a horrid retread of the human form replicators.

In all honesty, it was probably a mistake to ever have characters call them 'Replicators' on screen. Because in detail, they were only superficially similar (made of microscopic mechanical cells) to the humanform replicators, and that one thing alone had a multitude of fans hopping around saying 'they're unoriginal and lame.'

[Vertigo1]

If you want to make the wraith threatening, it's simple enough. Wraith steal one of those Asgard cores. A flashback to when Todd had the Daedalus under his control, with him simply getting it to copy all data.

BAM. The Wraith are the most dangerous threat in the known universe.

Or even better, establish the guys from "The Daedalus Variations" as a threat. They would probably make for a far more interesting enemy than the wraith. Hell, they seem to be the only enemy that we've seen (aside from the super wraith hive ship) that doesn't get easily get turned into scrap metal by the asgard beams of doom. Plus, they don't have to be a zpm upgraded wanked out wraith ship to be a large threat to our ships.

[Oskuro]

The evil Asgard would have been a good excuse for a movie, seeing how they were competent at what they did (their assault on Atlantis is, to my liking, the most awesome scene in the whole series).

A civil-war story about Todd's Wraith faction trying to overthrow the regular Wraith could be a way to resolve the series, although it'd be a rethread of the whole Jaffa rebellion theme from SG-1.
Or, they could assume Todd takes over the wraith offscreen, and have the movie be about the tensions between the Pegasus humans and these de-fanged Wraith, with the Atlantis team trying to convince both parts to co-exist peacefully (or at least tolerate each other).

Oh well, if SG:U does good, maybe it'll spark interest in making SG:A movies.

And what's this shit about the Children of the Gods new cut just being a removal of the nude scenes?!

[NecronLord]

Or even better, establish the guys from "The Daedalus Variations" as a threat. They would probably make for a far more interesting enemy than the wraith. Hell, they seem to be the only enemy that we've seen (aside from the super wraith hive ship) that doesn't get easily get turned into scrap metal by the asgard beams of doom. Plus, they don't have to be a zpm upgraded wanked out wraith ship to be a large threat to our ships.

Those guys definately seemed to have some cool potential, but I don't think they could be used for a film - I'd want more development; perhaps I'm wrong, though, and a stand-alone film would be better (obviously it's possible to make stand-alone films with aliens. But I'm not sure how well that'd go down for something with an established setting and audience). It doubtless depends on how it's written and such.

The evil Asgard would have been a good excuse for a movie, seeing how they were competent at what they did (their assault on Atlantis is, to my liking, the most awesome scene in the whole series).

I'm not sure about the coolest outright, but it was pretty damn good. That's the power of score for you - they had some badass music with them.

A civil-war story about Todd's Wraith faction trying to overthrow the regular Wraith could be a way to resolve the series, although it'd be a rethread of the whole Jaffa rebellion theme from SG-1.
Or, they could assume Todd takes over the wraith offscreen, and have the movie be about the tensions between the Pegasus humans and these de-fanged Wraith, with the Atlantis team trying to convince both parts to co-exist peacefully (or at least tolerate each other).

Oh well, if SG:U does good, maybe it'll spark interest in making SG:A movies.

And what's this shit about the Children of the Gods new cut just being a removal of the nude scenes?!

Supposedly the nude shots were put in by the studio. I imagine there's more to it than improved film quality and removed nude scenes, though. When I've more funds, I'll probably buy it.

[JME2]

Supposedly the nude shots were put in by the studio. I imagine there's more to it than improved film quality and removed nude scenes, though. When I've more funds, I'll probably buy it.

Yes, the nude scene was done at Showtime's insistence. Gateworld's review indicates the recut pilot flows better and better syncs up with SG-1's later character arcs, visual design aesthetic, etc.

[Steve]

Supposedly the nude shots were put in by the studio. I imagine there's more to it than improved film quality and removed nude scenes, though. When I've more funds, I'll probably buy it.

Yes, the nude scene was done at Showtime's insistence. Gateworld's review indicates the recut pilot flows better and better syncs up with SG-1's later character arcs, visual design aesthetic, etc.

Showtime being a premium movie channel probably thought that full frontal nudity by a beautiful woman would help with the ratings....

Granted, it was Vaitiare Bandera. Who is part Tahitian. So you won't hear me complain. Plus I've got the Season 1 DVD which has the pilot as originally aired....

Bah, we need the "lecherous eyebrow smilie" from SB....

[JME2]

So you won't hear me complain.

Apophis' actor, Peter Williams, ah, shares that same viewpoint...

[Steve]

Apparently so did Michael Shanks. And he, *cough*, got to do a lot more than look I've heard.

[Crazedwraith]

Anyway they did a lot more than just cut out the nudity. They re-did all the efffects to remove to reuse of movie footage. Replaced the transport glider with a Tel'Tac and two standard gliders. Added more babble for Teal'c and that's all only in the scene they showed on Amazon.com.

[JME2]

Anyway they did a lot more than just cut out the nudity. They re-did all the efffects to remove to reuse of movie footage. Replaced the transport glider with a Tel'Tac and two standard gliders. Added more babble for Teal'c and that's all only in the scene they showed on Amazon.com.

Not to mention Joel Godlsmith re-scoring the pilot, too.

[Themightytom]

They also cut the Epci One-liner, "Just because my reproductive organs are on teh outside..." which makes it worth buying in and of isefl O.o

[Darksider]

But that was such a boon to the feminist cause!

What's next? Cutting "Emancipation" out of the season 1 DVDs?

[Nephtys]

They also cut the Epci One-liner, "Just because my reproductive organs are on teh outside..." which makes it worth buying in and of isefl O.o

That was such a hilarious line, that nerdy civilian ALTERNATE!Carter comes up with it to stand up to her boss, then tells herself "Who the hell says things like that?".

[NecronLord]

Replaced the transport glider with a Tel'Tac and two standard gliders.

Bah. I liked the ring-glider. Far be it for the snakes to have some technological variety. Bah!

[Zac Naloen]

sounds like Hewlett is just being a pessimist to me, the creators have recently said that if either movie goes ahead soon filming won't be until late next year during the off-season.

Universe is taking up their attentions at the moment.

[CaptainChewbacca]

They should never have brought Atlantis to earth. There's nowhere to go now.

[JME2]

They should never have brought Atlantis to earth. There's nowhere to go now.

The writers' plan, IIRC, had always been to bring Atlantis back to Earth for the 100th episode. The ramifications of it s return and the effect on the now distant Pegasus galaxy would have played out over Season 6, so I expect a DTV to present those threads.