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From last Saturday's "Value Voters Summit"
By Tom Hymes
09/21/2009

WASHINGTON, D.C.—Michael Schwartz, chief of staff for Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), told a group of attendees at the Value Voters Summit on Saturday that all pornography is gay pornography because it “turns your sexual drive inwards.”

There was a purported point to Schwartz’ inane comments, which came during a morning session called “the new masculinity,” during which he also illuminated the crowd with a somewhat tortuous insight into teenage sexuality and homosexuality, cementing perhaps for all time his role as one of Washington’s most strident bigots and a man who clearly will never let a fact (or common sense) overcome his own ideology.

The Value Voters Summit is sponsored by the Family Research Council, which was “founded in 1983 as an organization dedicated to the promotion of marriage and family and the sanctity of human life in national policy.”

“Pornography is a blight,” Schwartz told the standing-room-only crowd at the Omni Shoreham hotel, expressing a view of adult entertainment that many in the crowd no doubt share. “It is a disaster. It is one of those silent diseases in our society that we haven’t been able to overcome very well. Now, I may be getting politically incorrect here. And it’s been a few years, but not that many, since I was closely associated with pre-adolescent boys, boys around 10 years of age. But it is my observation that boys of that age have less tolerance for homosexuality than just about any other class of people. They speak badly about homosexuality. And that’s because they don’t want to be that way. They don’t want to fall into it.”

Not content to conflate his own discomfort with homosexuality as a 10-year-old with the presumed intolerance of all other 10-year-olds (even gay ones!), Schwartz then told the story of a friend of his, Jim Johnson, who he said “was in the homosexual lifestyle for a long time” and would talk to him about the malady.

“One of the things he said to me,” Schwartz said, “that I think is an astonishingly insightful remark … ‘All pornography is homosexual pornography, because all pornography turns your sexual drive inwards.’

“Now, think about that,” he added. “And if you tell an 11-year-old boy about that, do you think he’s going to want to get a copy of Playboy? I’m pretty sure he’ll lose interest. That’s the last thing he wants! You know, that’s a good comment, it’s a good point, and it’s a good thing to teach young people.”

One would be hard-pressed to find so many fallacies shoved into so brief a comment, but such is the state of the culture in America that the chief of staff of a United States senator has no trouble uttering them at a highly publicized event that included conservatives such as Mitt Romney, Mike Pence, Rick Perry, Ed Meese, Bill O’Reilly, Mike Huckabee, Eric Cantor, John Boehner, Newt Gingrich, Roy Blunt and Bill Bennett—a group that contains the names of a few people who will be running for the office of president in the next election.

Suffice to say, remarks such as the ones Schwartz made are red meat intended to whip up a nice froth of outrage among the true believers even if they do not make a whit of sense. It clearly matters not to the man or his boss the serious disservice and possible damage he is doing to all adolescents, male and female, who might think that his comments have any merit at all.

The “astonishingly insightful remark” by his gay friend that “all pornography turns your sexual drive inwards” will probably get the most attention, and already has elicited some comments from the blogosphere, not least from Queerty (of course).

“Inwards? Well, sure, porn helps you find out, inwardly, what you're into,” they write, in a post labeled Idiot Logic. “It arouses you, inwardly, if only because there's probably no willing sexual partner around an 11-year-old. But what's any of that got to do with homosexuality? A boy playing with his own penis is going to make him crave more penis? The only way that could happen is if, uh, he's already gay.”

“An all time low. Even for the Christian Jihadists,” reads one of the comments on Queerty.

A full transcript and video of Schwartz' remarks can be found at Think Progress.

A 2005 Nation profile of Schwartz can be found here.

As a long-time fascinated observer of homophobia (real homophobia, not gay-bashing), all I have to say is that this moronic tool needs some cock, and badly; let's just hope it isn't from the 10-year olds whose sexual behavior he seems so interested in.
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Isn't this on par with their way of thinking? They deem all sexual sin the same with varying degrees of severity. They think that when you go down the path of sexual sin, you end up adopting stranger and stranger practices including homosexuality, bestiality or pedophilia. Isn't that how homophobes reconcile their views on homosexuality being a choice? That the homosexual chose sexual sin earlier in their life that led them to their current attractions to the same sex?
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That has got to be the stupidest thing I think I've heard all month.
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The part I find the most hilarious:
“Now, think about that,” he added. “And if you tell an 11-year-old boy about that, do you think he’s going to want to get a copy of Playboy? I’m pretty sure he’ll lose interest. That’s the last thing he wants! You know, that’s a good comment, it’s a good point, and it’s a good thing to teach young people.”
Yup, that's right, you can make someone lose all sexual interest in something if you tell them it's gay! They certainly won't continue to be interested in it and, if you've done a good enough job convincing/indoctrinating them, start to wonder if they themselves are gay for still being attracted to it. If it weren't a recipe for a world of mental disorders, I'd want to see this policy get put into effect. I'd love to see the looks on these fucktards' faces when kids by the thousands start to ask them, their friends, etc, if they're gay because they get turned on by porn.
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Jeez. A bit of pornography, such of it as was available before the internet, was a necessary part of my education. A century ago, a strong majority of kids grew up on farms. I have sometimes wondered how many of those raised in strict, fundamentalist Christian housholds ever figured out that human beings could make love face-to-face.

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This is goddamn hilarious. It trumps even Sarah Palin in terms of unwitting idiocy, and that's a feat worthy of note.
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A little bit of good news in the mess of insanity
Gay Marriage Is Fading as 'Values' Focal Point
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It's Mike Huckabee's win in the presidential straw poll at this past week's Value Voters' summit that's drawing the headlines. But this is every bit as interesting:

Abortion ranked first among issues of concern to straw-poll voters, getting 41 percent of the vote, with protection of religious liberty second with 18 percent.

Opposition to same-sex marriage was third at 7 percent.
Emphasis is mine. These are not the tea-partiers, who have a libertarian bent. This is a forum, rather, sponsored by the Family Research Council, an organization which continues to insist that homosexuality is curable and to link it to pedophilia. But the actual attendees at the forum -- religious conservative activists from around the country -- just don't seem to be all that riled up about the prospect of two men getting married.

This is not to suggest that these voters have become pro-gay marriage. If any of them was spotted in leather chaps at Remington's after the event -- it was not, I assure you, to show solidarity for their gay brothers and sisters. But the last time this poll was conducted, in October 2007, gay marriage was the top choice of 20 percent of the attendees. That's quite a decline, particularly given that gay marriage has been more in the news than abortion for the past couple of years.

Public opinion is moving toward acceptance of gay marriage. But it is doing so very slowly, at a rate of perhaps a point or two per year, and has at least a few years to go before it is the majority opinion. In the near term, the more relevant dimension may be 'passion', or depth of feeling. It used to be that the conservatives were ahead on passion -- they were strongly opposed to gay marriage, whereas liberals were, at best, lukewarmly in favor of it. Increasingly, that dynamic seems to be reversing.
I certainly hope that dynamic continues to reverse. One of the major reasons we end up losing in so many marriage equality fights is because our opponents are incredibly passionate and the majority of our supporters are like... "eh, sure. Let them marry." A major obstacle in winning these battles is bringing out the passion of our support and we need it not only from LGBT-activists but from straight allies from every community (including the religious).
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Not content to conflate his own discomfort with homosexuality as a 10-year-old with the presumed intolerance of all other 10-year-olds (even gay ones!), Schwartz then told the story of a friend of his, Jim Johnson, who he said “was in the homosexual lifestyle for a long time” and would talk to him about the malady.

“One of the things he said to me,” Schwartz said, “that I think is an astonishingly insightful remark … ‘All pornography is homosexual pornography, because all pornography turns your sexual drive inwards.’
I'm calling bullshit on this. Not that Schwartz actually didn't say this in public (which he obviously did) but the verifiability of the statement itself. This sounds like Schwartz is just making it up along with his alleged homosexual friend for purposes of making his so-called "point". And if this Jim Johnson person actually did say something like this, the guy has to be about as fucked-up as Schwartz evidently is.
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Patrick Degan wrote:
Not content to conflate his own discomfort with homosexuality as a 10-year-old with the presumed intolerance of all other 10-year-olds (even gay ones!), Schwartz then told the story of a friend of his, Jim Johnson, who he said “was in the homosexual lifestyle for a long time” and would talk to him about the malady.

“One of the things he said to me,” Schwartz said, “that I think is an astonishingly insightful remark … ‘All pornography is homosexual pornography, because all pornography turns your sexual drive inwards.’
I'm calling bullshit on this. Not that Schwartz actually didn't say this in public (which he obviously did) but the verifiability of the statement itself. This sounds like Schwartz is just making it up along with his alleged homosexual friend for purposes of making his so-called "point". And if this Jim Johnson person actually did say something like this, the guy has to be about as fucked-up as Schwartz evidently is.
It may be that Schwartz's friend is indeed that fucked up. Schwartz mentioned that this friend "was in the homosexual lifestyle for a long time". The keyword, was, indicates to me that he's talking about an ex-gay friend and may ex-gay individuals are certainly quite fucked up in the head.
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I will make a bet with anyone who wants to take it. I will bet that if someone searched his home hard drive, that that fucker would be FILLED with photos of men having sex. I mean, gigabytes of man-on-man action. Any takers?
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Emerson33260 wrote:I have sometimes wondered how many of those raised in strict, fundamentalist Christian housholds ever figured out that human beings could make love face-to-face.

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Oh man, there is no better indicator of the behaviour of pre-adolescent boys than WHAT THEY SAY. I heard some guys talking bout a revolution, y'know?

The idea that porn is 'gay' is utterly hilarious. I mean, we all like fake lesbians, but come on. :)
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Pint0 Xtreme wrote:
Patrick Degan wrote:
Not content to conflate his own discomfort with homosexuality as a 10-year-old with the presumed intolerance of all other 10-year-olds (even gay ones!), Schwartz then told the story of a friend of his, Jim Johnson, who he said “was in the homosexual lifestyle for a long time” and would talk to him about the malady.

“One of the things he said to me,” Schwartz said, “that I think is an astonishingly insightful remark … ‘All pornography is homosexual pornography, because all pornography turns your sexual drive inwards.’
I'm calling bullshit on this. Not that Schwartz actually didn't say this in public (which he obviously did) but the verifiability of the statement itself. This sounds like Schwartz is just making it up along with his alleged homosexual friend for purposes of making his so-called "point". And if this Jim Johnson person actually did say something like this, the guy has to be about as fucked-up as Schwartz evidently is.
It may be that Schwartz's friend is indeed that fucked up. Schwartz mentioned that this friend "was in the homosexual lifestyle for a long time". The keyword, was, indicates to me that he's talking about an ex-gay friend and may ex-gay individuals are certainly quite fucked up in the head.
You do have a point there.
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Ryan Thunder wrote:That has got to be the stupidest thing I think I've heard all month.
Who knew that when a young, impressionable Elfdart popped a raging boner the first time he saw a copy of Playboy that it was the beginning of long, steady process of becoming a screaming homo? I mean, if I watch another Alexis Texas video I'll -I don't know- watch Antiques Roadshow or Kathy Griffin or something?

If you add this bit of stupidity along with Faux News and right-wing radio, we are now past the era of agitprop where people would lie and hope their audience is too dumb to notice. We are now in an age where political hacks say things they know aren't true and that their target audience knows are not true.
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I don't know, before I read the thread I thought he might be talking about the infuriating and overwhelming tendency for many so-called pornos they release nowadays to end with the supremely off-putting sight of some dude jerking off on a hapless pornstar's face. Yeah. Really erotic stuff- that's why I watch porn. To see some dude jerk off at the end.

Who knew he wasn't talking about simply bad porno? :lol:
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Elfdart wrote:If you add this bit of stupidity along with Faux News and right-wing radio, we are now past the era of agitprop where people would lie and hope their audience is too dumb to notice. We are now in an age where political hacks say things they know aren't true and that their target audience knows are not true.
Don't be so sure about that last part. The target audiences for this drivel, in a lot of cases, consist of people who would have to be watered if their brains were any smaller.
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Gil Hamilton wrote:I will make a bet with anyone who wants to take it. I will bet that if someone searched his home hard drive, that that fucker would be FILLED with photos of men having sex. I mean, gigabytes of man-on-man action. Any takers?
no, because of his comments on 10 year old boys, it's got to be filled with Walmart underwear ads, featuring pre-pubescent males.
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More in the same vein:

Salon.com link
Salon wrote: Wednesday, Sept. 23, 2009 20:05 EDT
King: Same-sex marriage just a step toward socialism

Normally Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, opposes same-sex marriage simply because of his social conservative stance on things. That alone is enough for the congressman to take a particularly strong stance on the issue -- after his state's Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage, he worried that Iowa would become "the gay marriage Mecca."

But King's got a creative new reason for his position. Via The Hill's Blog Briefing Room, some comments King made on conservative radio Wednesday:
If there's a push for a socialist society where the foundations of individual rights and liberties are undermined and everybody is thrown together living collectively off one pot of resources earned by everyone, this is one of the goals they have to go to, same sex marriage, because it has to plow through marriage in order to get to their goal. They want public affirmation, they want access to public funds and resources.
Screaming lunatics, the lot of them. OMGZ, GAY MARRIAGE == SOCIALIZMZ!!1!

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Patrick Degan wrote:The target audiences for this drivel, in a lot of cases, consist of people who would have to be watered if their brains were any smaller.
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"All porn is gay porn, even the exclusively straight stuff" is the most blatant example of doublethink I've seen today. I bet he knows it's both untrue and strongly believes it. Also, basing some sort of approach to sexuality on the views of 10 year old boys sounds about right for these people.
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I think John Stewart pointed out the flaw in this best, when he pointed out the one thing 10/11 year old boys dislike/find more ickky than homosexuals....girls. :lol:

Honestly, I am not sure whether this or the "Courage in Media" award Bill O'Reilly won while having press barred from the ceremony was the most outrageous things to happen at this event. The amount of double think involved with O'Reilly is staggering, while these comments could I suppose be made out of ignorance (ie not wanting to believe those know-it-all scientists about homosexuality being genetic) or pure doublethink as Rye suggested.
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Jon Stewart's coverage on the Daily Show was fuckin' hilarious.

"Wow! Looking at these pictures make me want to touch my cock. ....Who's to say I wouldn't enjoy touching other people's cocks? ....By gum, I think I'll try it!" :lol:
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If porn could turn people gay, then there would be no straight guys.
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Actually, strictly speaking, all porn IS potentially homosexual porn.

All males -> homosexual.
All females -> homosexual.
Male/female mix -> at least one of the actors will be of the same sex as the viewer (or whichever the viewer identifies as).

You see, if kids watch straight porn, they would almost certainly see a naked man's backside, thus turning them gay. If they watch lesbian porn, then they are still watching homosexuality take place, and thinking that such behaviour is normal, would thus immediately turn gay.

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Yeah, that doesn't work with pictures of naked women. Or does that not count as porn?
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