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A study in dolphins has revealed genetic clues that could help medical researchers to treat type 2 diabetes.

Scientists from the US National Marine Mammal Foundation said that bottlenose dolphins are resistant to insulin - just like people with diabetes.

But in dolphins, they say, this resistance is switched on and off.


The researchers presented the findings at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) in San Diego.

They hope to collaborate with diabetes researchers to see if they can find and possibly even control an equivalent human "off switch".

The team, based in San Diego, took blood samples from trained dolphins that "snack" continuously during the day and fast overnight.

"The overnight changes in their blood chemistry match the changes in diabetic humans," explained Stephanie Venn-Watson, director of veterinary medicine at the foundation.

This means that insulin - the hormone that reduces the level of glucose in the blood - has no effect on the dolphins when they fast.

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In the morning, when they have their breakfast, they simply switch back into a non-fasting state, said Dr Venn-Watson. In diabetic people, chronic insulin resistance means having to carefully control blood glucose, usually with a diet low in sugar, to avoid a variety of medical complications.

But in dolphins, the resistance appears to be advantageous. Dr Venn-Watson explained that the mammals may have evolved this fasting-feeding switch to cope with a high-protein, low-carbohydrate diet of fish.


"Bottlenose dolphins have large brains that need sugar," Dr Venn-Watson explained. Since their diet is very low in sugar, "it works to their advantage to have a condition that keeps blood sugar in the body… to keep the brain well fed".

But other marine mammals, such as seals, do not have this switch, and Dr Venn-Watson thinks that the "big brain factor" could be what connects human and dolphin blood chemistry.

There are several interesting diseases that you only see in humans and dolphins
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"We're really looking at two species that have big brains with high demands for blood glucose," she said.

"And we have found changes in dolphins that suggest that [this insulin resistance] could get pushed into a disease state. "If we started feeding dolphins Twinkies, they would have diabetes."

Genetic link

Since both the human genome and the dolphin genome have been sequenced, Dr Venn-Watson hopes to work with medical researchers to turn the discovery in dolphins into an eventual treatment for humans.

"There is no desire to make a dolphin a lab animal," she said. "But the genome has been mapped - so we can compare those genes with human genes."

Scientists at the Salk Institute in San Diego have already discovered a "fasting gene" that is abnormally turned on in people with diabetes, "so maybe this is a smoking gun for a key point to control human diabetes", Dr Venn-Watson said.

If scientists can find out what switches the fasting gene on and off in dolphins, they may be able to do the same thing in people.

Lori Schwacke, a scientist from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) in Charleston, South Carolina, said that the work demonstrated that there are interesting similarities between dolphins and humans.

Dr Schwacke, who is studying the effect of pollution on dolphins along the coast of the US state of Georgia, is also interested in the links between dolphin and human health.

"There are several interesting diseases that you only see in humans and dolphins," she told BBC News. In this case, Dr Venn-Watson said, "the fundamental difference is that dolphins can switch it off and humans can't".

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Also hopes Japanese are immune to any cure developed from it. Spoiler
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I’m sure Japan will be quick to state an urgent research requirement for at least 250 million gallons of dolphin blood for diabetic research practices. The meat will of course be sold on the side, to prevent wastage.

Somehow though, you always got to feel like when you hear news like this that its just going to have to turn out that yes we can make this work in humans, and yes it will give them cancer too. How long do dolphins live anyway?
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This is pretty neat. The problem with diabetes is that insulin - which is needed to metabolize blood sugar/glucose - either does not work, because the person becomes insulin-resistant, or because he can't manufacture enough insulin himself. Because the sugar is not used, it affects blood viscosity - the blood becomes thick. Because the blood is thick, like molasses or something, it has trouble perfusing/circulating into the tinier blood vessels in the body.

This leads to complications like diabetic retinopathy, wherein there is poor blood circulation into the tiny blood vessels in your eyes. It also leads to diabetic foot complications because when you get an injury to the foot, the poor circulation results in a shitty healing process and when gangrene or other complications set in, a person who does NOT take care of his diabetic foot might end up losing it - by amputation.

Aside from this, the viscosity of the blood and the associated problems with blood perfusion and circulation lead to a whole SLEW of systemic problems if the condition worsens - because the other body systems and organs are not getting the blood they need, because the thick viscous molasses blood cannot make it through the tinier blood vessels.

Also, because the body has poor sugar metabolism, the body starts consuming the fats and then the muscles (ketoacidosis) - when this happens, your breath starts to smell like acetone because that is a byproduct of the process of fat and amino acid breakdown. Also, because of the thickness of the blood, the osmolarity differences means that fluid gets absorbed OUT of your cells because the water is attracted to the higher solute concentration of your blood. What does this mean? This means that your fucking CELLS DEHYDRATE and you get all thirsty and you get to pee a lot too. Increased fluid intake, and the increase in the thickness of the blood, can also lead to heart complications since poor blood circulation in the veins inside the heart itself may mean that your heart muscles might not be getting enough oxygen and crap.

And other things. I'm sure more competent healthcare personnel like Knife or mr friendly guy can detail more about it. But this is one of the things I can totally go on about because it's one of the few subjects I actually paid *some* attention to (I am a terrible NUERS). :lol:


Anyway, yeah. It's pretty cool how dolphins can switch insulin resistance on and off - and it makes perfect sense for them to use it. Dolphin life is pretty damn physically intensive - all the swimming around, all the burning of energy. It makes sense that when they're asleep or when they're fasting, then they've got to conserve all their energy - all their blood glucose - by temporarily becoming diabetic and just letting the sugar build up in their blood without using it. Then when they're awake or when they're no longer fasting (when food is now available), THEN they can start burning energy again because it's appropriate. Brilliant.

Where do dolphins sleep, anyway? Do they just float around sleeping in the middle of the sea, or do they find safe areas?
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Dolphins sleep half their brain at a time so they're still partially aware and can remember to breathe and watch for predators. Usually they're in groups too, so if a number of them are keeping one eye open they should be able to spot something coming. It's not an uncommon method - a lot of birds (especially waterfowl and seabirds) do it too.
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But do they stay stationary or are they also swimming while they are half-asleep? (I know they have that half-brain thing going on)
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They have a sort of controlled drift, to my knowledge.
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Yeah, they just float on or around the surface, but ready to go active at a moment's notice. Same with a lot of the ducks that do it while on the water. Obviously on land they just sit there. Albatrosses just keep gliding along like they usually do.
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Presumably some dolphins stay awake and watch out for them, and rotate watches? The sleep cycles of marine mammals, and even fishes, sound very interesting. How do whales sleep? In a same fashion? I wonder if Great White Sharks have nappy times.
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Isn't that when the pilot fish eat, when the shark is sleeping, so that they don't get eaten themselves. I remember hearing that somewhere.

Most whales probably don't have to worry about predators as much, but maybe they would use a similar system for when they have young?
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Dolphins keep one eye open (the one corresponding to whichever hemisphere is still awake) and they sleep in groups so someone will be pointing in every direction on watch. It helps that they're social so they're usually in groups. Probably similar with whales since they're also social and pods of orcas can be fatal even to adults.

Apparently the research is still ongoing on whether or not sharks actually sleep or not, or if they do the hemisphere thing too since some of them do lie on the bottom for a while and don't move.
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