Star Wars vs. Warhammer40k

[MichaelAwesome]

I was rereading my favorite fanfic, “the Open Door” by Academia Nut, and its foreshadowed Jedi vs. Warhammer40k mega-battle, when I thought: “What would happen if the Force gained a foothold in another dimension? How would this disrupt the status quo?”

DISCUSSION:
I am not an expert in Star Wars or Warhammer40k, meaning I probably overlooked something or didn't consider its full ramifications, hence why I posted this on StarDestroyer.Net to get feedback and constructive criticism from people far more knowledge than myself. I enjoy the exchange of ideas, as it's what introduced me to the awesomeness of Warhammer40k in the first place.

MY TAKE:
I imagine the spread of the Force being the metaphysical equivalent of terraforming or panspermia with some similarities to the Borg’s assimilation process in that it incorporates previously-existing lifeforms into its energy field. However, it’s possible that there could be a high fatality rate as not all lifeforms will be compatible or that the dimension’s physics would try to reject the conversion.

If the Force did somehow gain a foothold in the cannon-W40K reality, my guess is that the Force would evolve into an intermediary layer between real-space and the Warp, perhaps symbolizing the balance of Order vs Chaos instead of Light vs Dark.

Possible impact:

• (1) The biggest long-term impact the Force would have is that it would make the C'tan plan to block off the Warp exponentially more difficult as all life would be indirectly connected to it instead of just sentient biological beings.
  
  (2) The Warp and Waaagh! would become somewhat less volatile, meaning fewer Weirdboyz exploding their heads and a decrease in Warp storms.
  
  (3)Sentient biological beings with little to no presence in the Warp, such as the Tau and Pariahs of the Culexus Temple, would experience a reduction in their resistance to Warp-based power and/or psychic-nullifying nature, as well as becoming vulnerable to the mutating effects of Chaos. A new tier in the Tau Empire’s caste system could emerge to accommodate Force-sensitive Tau for the sake of the Greater Good.
  
  (4) Many psykers would need to spend months or years relearning control over their psychic powers, which would seriously hinder astropaths, navigators, farseers, daemonic activity, etc. On the positive side, the near-constant assault on the Emperor’s psychic presence in the Warp would temporarily wane. This reprieve would let the Emperor of Mankind catch his breath and slow down the gradual decline in his health and vitality.

[Mayabird]

Moved from Fics because it's not a story or about writing a story.

I would be interested to see the results, though.

[Jaeger]

Maybe the Force could strengthen Isha so that she’d escape from Nurgle the Plague Lord. She’s the Eldar goddess of healing and agriculture, meaning she naturally attuned to the light side of the Force.

Once free, Isha would nurture Ynnead, the unborn god growing in the Infinity Circuit whose purpose is to battle Slaanesh. With hope renewed for the first time since The Fall, the Eldar ought to regain political cohesion and a sense of purpose. This would divide the Ruinous Power’s attention that is already distracted by Sunnydale thanks to Ethan Rayne’s Halloween spell.

However, Ynnead being born early would mean that he’d lack the power needed to destroy Slaanesh forever, or heal the Eye of Terror, or prevent a similar catacysm from happening again. In a “be careful what you wish for” scenario, the rekindling of the Eldar civilization would come at the expense of being unable to destroy their greatest enemy Slaanesh.

[NecronLord]

(1) The biggest long-term impact the Force would have is that it would make the C'tan plan to block off the Warp exponentially more difficult as all life would be indirectly connected to it instead of just sentient biological beings.

This is already the case. There are even non-sapient beings in 40k capable of teleporting themselves between worlds (Croatlids) over several light years using the warp. The question is if the force becomes associated with the warp; would the Great Ward shut that down too?

(2) The Warp and Waaagh! would become somewhat less volatile, meaning fewer Weirdboyz exploding their heads and a decrease in Warp storms.

I'm not sure why this would be the case.

(3)Sentient biological beings with little to no presence in the Warp, such as the Tau and Pariahs of the Culexus Temple, would experience a reduction in their resistance to Warp-based power and/or psychic-nullifying nature, as well as becoming vulnerable to the mutating effects of Chaos. A new tier in the Tau Empire’s caste system could emerge to accommodate Force-sensitive Tau for the sake of the Greater Good.

I'm not sure why this would affect nulls. They're still going to be nulls. If the Force somehow slots itself in as part of the warp, I imagine they will also be force nulls.

(4) Many psykers would need to spend months or years relearning control over their psychic powers, which would seriously hinder astropaths, navigators, farseers, daemonic activity, etc. On the positive side, the near-constant assault on the Emperor’s psychic presence in the Warp would temporarily wane. This reprieve would let the Emperor of Mankind catch his breath and slow down the gradual decline in his health and vitality.[/list]

You're only associating the Force with its positive aspects. The Force also permits the likes of Palpatine and Darth Nihilus to suck the life out of billions of people. The Force itself happily enables evil too.

[Valorie]

It’s a two-way street. The Warp would leak into the Star Wars universe by using the Force to piggyback its way in. Like any good Lovecraftian horror, the Empire and Rebellion wouldn't realize what was happening until it was too late.

Plus, just imagine how badass it’d be if Jabba the Hutt or Prince Xizor was corrupted by the Ruinous Powers, although Palpatine and Vader have too much control over their own negative emotions to become pawns of the Chaos gods.

In Academia Nut’s cosmology, most dimensions only have two or three sentient races unlike the thousands in Star Wars, so I can picture Tzeentch or his neoChaos counterpart Tzintchi arranging for a mass-diaspora that’d scatter dozens of races across the multiverse. This would minimize the damage caused by the Imperium’s counterstrike on the Star Wars universe, and the displaced aliens’ attempt to return home or colonize a new dimension would create countless ripple effects in the so-called ‘strings of fate.’

[ammybah]

(1) The biggest long-term impact the Force would have is that it would make the C'tan plan to block off the Warp exponentially more difficult as all life would be indirectly connected to it instead of just sentient biological beings.

This is already the case. There are even non-sapient beings in 40k capable of teleporting themselves between worlds (Croatlids) over several light years using the warp. The question is if the force becomes associated with the warp; would the Great Ward shut that down too?

No, I think the Force and Warp would be connected but not merge to exist as one and the same.

Think of reality as a venn diagram consisting three circles: real-space, the Force, and the Warp. You’d have places where two overlap and places where all three overlap. In order for the C’tan to sever the Warp from real-space, they must first sever the Force from the Warp.

the Force = life
the Warp = emotion & thought

Besides, one of the rules from the "Evil Overlord List" is "Never rely solely on one type of weapon or power source" or something along those lines, that way you'll have a back-up if your usual methods get thwarted. Chaos is all about duality and self-contradiction, which would encourage the subtle differences between the Force and the Warp in order to cherry-pick the best of both worlds without confining themselves to a single archetype.

[WillowBee]

Depending on how you felt about "Episode 1: the Phantom Menace," Fabius Bile could modify the Larraman’s Organs of Chaos Marines so that the platelet-like Larraman Cells would double as artificial Midi-Chlorians. Each Chaos Marine would be able to manifest minor Psyker powers and greater recuperative healing so long as they remained in close proximity to each other. Although not as powerful, or versatile, or skillful as true Psykers, their ability to synchronize energy fields and perform collaborative feats of sorcery would make them an invaluable asset.

No, I'm not a fan of the midi-chlorian concept George Lucas threw out as it diminishes the spiritual significance of the Force, but it does present a biological phenomena that can be manipulated with W40K's technology.

[Imperial528]

IIRC, midi-chlorians did not make the force, but merely made access to it easier.

Also, IIRC, midi-chlorians are sub-cellular in size, and not cells themselves. Which could make replicating them significantly harder.

[Darth Hoth]

Is there any proof that the technobabblorians actually affect Force-sensitivity, rather than merely indicating it? It might well be the presence of the Force that draws the symbionts rather than the other way around. I do remember some vague dialogue from Ep I that might indicate the former rather than the latter, , but if I recall correctly, it was nothing really concrete.

On topic: I personally loved Eleventh Century Remant's take on Force/Warp in his crossover fic "Squelch of Empires". In it, he posited the Force as being a weaker Warp without Chaos.

[NecronLord]

No, I think the Force and Warp would be connected but not merge to exist as one and the same.

This is subjective. My view is as good as yours.

[ammybah]

*sighs* Yes, this is subjective and your view is as good as mine.

Let me rephrase myself: “In the context of Academia Nut’s interpretation of the multiverse, X is more likely to happen then Y.” In his story, every soul contains a bubble of the law of physics from the dimension it was born in, although these laws can be tweaked but not outright overwritten under the right circumstances as seen with Vita from the Nanoha-verse (see chapter17).

The Force in the W40K-verse would be bolstered by its connection to the Force in the StarWars-verse and its link to almost every living organism in that galaxy (+500 trillion sentient souls post-YuuzhanVong). While the Force and the Warp share an impressive degree of ‘cross-platform compatibility,’ the Force has enough counter-momentum so that a partial merger would act more like osmosis through a semi-permeable membrane than diffusion into a unified energy field. Yes, it's fun yet often confusing when the multiverse gets described as if it were a living superorganism.

[Simon_Jester]

Is there any proof that the technobabblorians actually affect Force-sensitivity, rather than merely indicating it? It might well be the presence of the Force that draws the symbionts rather than the other way around. I do remember some vague dialogue from Ep I that might indicate the former rather than the latter, , but if I recall correctly, it was nothing really concrete.

On topic: I personally loved Eleventh Century Remant's take on Force/Warp in his crossover fic "Squelch of Empires". In it, he posited the Force as being a weaker Warp without Chaos.

The implication being that Warp entities as 40k knows them can't survive in the weak-Warp environment of the Star Wars galaxy. The closest equivalent is Force ghosts, and those disperse over a decade or two (witness what happens to Obi-Wan's ghost in the EU). But because the vast majority of the population has effectively zero Force sensitivity (as opposed to 40k where most people have a trace of Warp sensitivity, at the least)... entities that feed off the emotions and psychic backscatter of the galaxy cannot live in Star Wars.

I liked it too because it unifies the settings well. On the other hand, ECR has also had difficulty merging that with the fact that Force sensitive SW characters become much more powerful and more subject to temptation by the Warp in his version of the crossover.

[takemeout_totheblack]

Don't worry ammybah, that's as good an explanation as anything else I've heard. Wait, would that make C'Tan and the Chaos Gods meta-viruses or something? Lol, the mighty C'Tan are a nasty case of the metaversal flu!

I keep hearing about the 'Will of the Force' and all that, like the Force makes stuff happen to further what appears to be an agenda (Teh Profeshee from the prequels being a big example). Could the Force itself have a conscious entity behind it, dare I say it, a God?
Or is it all metaphorical?

[Darth Hoth]

Is there any proof that the technobabblorians actually affect Force-sensitivity, rather than merely indicating it? It might well be the presence of the Force that draws the symbionts rather than the other way around. I do remember some vague dialogue from Ep I that might indicate the former rather than the latter, , but if I recall correctly, it was nothing really concrete.

On topic: I personally loved Eleventh Century Remant's take on Force/Warp in his crossover fic "Squelch of Empires". In it, he posited the Force as being a weaker Warp without Chaos.

The implication being that Warp entities as 40k knows them can't survive in the weak-Warp environment of the Star Wars galaxy. The closest equivalent is Force ghosts, and those disperse over a decade or two (witness what happens to Obi-Wan's ghost in the EU). But because the vast majority of the population has effectively zero Force sensitivity (as opposed to 40k where most people have a trace of Warp sensitivity, at the least)... entities that feed off the emotions and psychic backscatter of the galaxy cannot live in Star Wars.

I liked it too because it unifies the settings well. On the other hand, ECR has also had difficulty merging that with the fact that Force sensitive SW characters become much more powerful and more subject to temptation by the Warp in his version of the crossover.

In the EU you have Force ghosts surviving for centuries or millennia apparently unaided by external forces, such as Freedon Nadd or Naga Sadow. These are almost all Sith or other darksiders, however. Apparently the Jedi are more about "giving in to fate/the Will of the Force" about it; if I recall correctly, Ben said in the Zahn trilogy that he chose to "walk on" after having tarried (although I cannot quote this; I only ever read the book in translation, and at present I do not have even that available to check). And depending on how much to believe of what is being said of the new series (Fate of the Jedi), there are even worse monsters out there (Abeloth). And pseudo-Lovecraftian magical megamonster stuff like the Waru, of course, even if these are not "disembodied spirits" as such.

Not that any of these are anything like a Chaos God, in terms of function or ability (except perhaps Palpatine at his peak, who is at the least more powerful than any psyker or daemon I am aware of), but they do fit the model of the "ascended" Chaos daemon princes and the like pretty well.

I keep hearing about the 'Will of the Force' and all that, like the Force makes stuff happen to further what appears to be an agenda (Teh Profeshee from the prequels being a big example). Could the Force itself have a conscious entity behind it, dare I say it, a God?
Or is it all metaphorical?

This is a real matter of theological dispute in-universe. Essentially, that is the core difference between the Jedi and the Sith sects: The Jedi believe that the Force has a will of its own and that they should obey it religiously, while the Sith view it simply as a tool and source of power. From what I know, the Jedi have never actually managed to prove that the Force does have a will, although they firmly believe in it, of course.

[MichaelAwesome]

Don't worry ammybah, that's as good an explanation as anything else I've heard. Wait, would that make C'Tan and the Chaos Gods meta-viruses or something? Lol, the mighty C'Tan are a nasty case of the metaversal flu!

Actually, there is a super-intelligent computer virus in "the Open Door." Spoiler

It's a rabbit/spider system bug from "Ah!MyGoddess" named Think who evolved into a demi-god and enjoys wearing pimp hats. I can't say more without ruining the plot, so go read it if you haven't already. Also, it's hard to judge Think's intelligence simply because he can't talk and has the mentality of a rabbit/spider hybird that makes his internal monologues hard to understand.

The virus analogy is an interesting one, especially if the Warp was seen in terms of a corrupted Operating System in need of reformatting.

[Ugolino]

Bleh. The Open Door was alright, but the "New Chaos" needs a nasty drubbing. Something along the lines of a Little Doctor applied directly to Earth. That way, there might be some drama instead of LOLCHAOS. There's a phrase for fictional characters and groups like New Chaos and it isn't "their effects on surroundings are interesting".
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[Cykeisme]

IIRC, midi-chlorians did not make the force, but merely made access to it easier.

Also, IIRC, midi-chlorians are sub-cellular in size, and not cells themselves. Which could make replicating them significantly harder.

Though EU, there are events that seem to indicate that midi-chlorians are caused by Force sensitivity, rather than the other way around.
For example, the Techno Union made attempts to infuse midi-chlorians into General Grievous' tissues early in his reconstruction, but the experiment was unsuccessful; they didn't seem to do anything.

One plausible explanation for this is that midi-chlorians are attracted or generated in a living being's tissue due to a being's strength in the Force (rather than the other way around). Additionally, the midi-chlorians in a person's tissues may only work for the being they gestated in; perhaps the midi-chlorians only "speak" to the being they formed in, to use the word that Qui-Gonn used in describing them.

[Jaeger]

Though EU, there are events that seem to indicate that midi-chlorians are caused by Force sensitivity, rather than the other way around.
For example, the Techno Union made attempts to infuse midi-chlorians into General Grievous' tissues early in his reconstruction, but the experiment was unsuccessful; they didn't seem to do anything.

Regardless of whether or not midi-chlorians are necessary, a simpler solution would be to breed non-sentient Force-sensitive symbiotes and graft them into the bodies of Chaos Marines with the host usurping the symbiotes Force abilities, sort of like the Trill from “Star Trek” or the Goa’uld from “Stargate: SG-1.” A neural chip or lobotomy would keep the symbiote docile and unable to rebel against the host. Nurgle worshippers wouldn’t be given symbiotes due to all the diseases and poison in their bodies.

The biggest difficulty in such a plan would be finding safe places to breed the symbiotes, shieldied from Warp exposure to keep their Force-based abilities at optimal condition, prevent them from mutating which Chaos tends to do, maintain their fragile sanity, thwart daemonic possession, etc.

Bleh. The Open Door was alright, but the "New Chaos" needs a nasty drubbing. Something along the lines of a Little Doctor applied directly to Earth. That way, there might be some drama instead of LOLCHAOS. There's a phrase for fictional characters and groups like New Chaos and it isn't "their effects on surroundings are interesting".

I reluctantly agree with Ugolino, neoChaos is too genre savvy and has grown complacent without any competition. The reason why “the Adventures of Lars and Skuld” was so popular was because they weren’t in control of their situation, got beat down, and dealt with a long string of bad luck. All Shinji/Tzintchi does these days are mutter "Excellent, all is going according to plan" like Montgomery Burns, the owner of the nuclear power plant in Springfield.

[Highlord Laan]

It’s a two-way street. The Warp would leak into the Star Wars universe by using the Force to piggyback its way in. Like any good Lovecraftian horror, the Empire and Rebellion wouldn't realize what was happening until it was too late.

Plus, just imagine how badass it’d be if Jabba the Hutt or Prince Xizor was corrupted by the Ruinous Powers, although Palpatine and Vader have too much control over their own negative emotions to become pawns of the Chaos gods.

In Academia Nut’s cosmology, most dimensions only have two or three sentient races unlike the thousands in Star Wars, so I can picture Tzeentch or his neoChaos counterpart Tzintchi arranging for a mass-diaspora that’d scatter dozens of races across the multiverse. This would minimize the damage caused by the Imperium’s counterstrike on the Star Wars universe, and the displaced aliens’ attempt to return home or colonize a new dimension would create countless ripple effects in the so-called ‘strings of fate.’

How was it put here on SDN? "The Sith are pretty much all Tzeentch, all the time." Said god would appear to Palpatine and say, with another quote from these very forums "I heard you like unlimited power. Would you like some more?"

Vader and Khorne would get along just fine and dandy. And Tzeentch would love Luke's search for lost and forgotten knowledge to rebuild the Jedi. Don't even get me started on Kyp and Khorne. He annihilated a whole star system in a fit of vengeance, the Blood God would adore that boy.

SW is completely unprepared for the kind of subversive, all-corrupting power of the Ruinous Powers. Jedi like Yoda and maybe Obi-Wan and Windu might have been able to hack it.

[1batman4u]

SW is completely unprepared for the kind of subversive, all-corrupting power of the Ruinous Powers. Jedi like Yoda and maybe Obi-Wan and Windu might have been able to hack it.

The power of Chaos would increase tenfold if they converted a sentient planet into a Daemon world: Zonama Sekot, Indobok the living moon of Kalarba, Solanus, and D’vouran. Zonama Sekot is a seed of the Yuuzhan Vong's home world, Indobok is a massive B'rknaa monster, Solanus has a self-aware ocean that qualifies as a genius loci, and D'vouran was part the Empire's Project:Starscream as described in the Galaxy of Fear series.

It's possible that Tzeentch and Nurgle would covet Nam Chorios, home to two odd species: the Droch, life-draining parasitic insects that spread the Death Seed plague and would gradually grow more intelligent if they fed often enough, and the Tsil or spook crystals, intelligent mineral-based lifeforms that can reflect and amplify light and life energy to keep Droch populations in check. See “Planet of Twilight” by Barbara Hambly and “Agents of Chaos I: Hero’s Trial” by James Luceno for more details.

[white_rabbit]

The power of Chaos would increase tenfold if they converted a sentient planet into a Daemon world: Zonama Sekot, Indobok the living moon of Kalarba, Solanus, and D’vouran. Zonama Sekot is a seed of the Yuuzhan Vong's home world, Indobok is a massive B'rknaa monster, Solanus has a self-aware ocean that qualifies as a genius loci, and D'vouran was part the Empire's Project:Starscream as described in the Galaxy of Fear series.

Why ?

The planet at the center of the Maelstrom is a corrupted Eldar Maiden World, and apparently sentient as well. There's a short story in one of the anthologies that has a daemonic planet thats basically some daemon princes ride.

Size of a sentient being doesn't automatically translate to power, and gigantic chaos beasties of all shapes and sizes exist, including at least one planet sized critter (well, before the Space Wolves blew it up)

It's possible that Tzeentch and Nurgle would covet Nam Chorios, home to two odd species: the Droch, life-draining parasitic insects that spread the Death Seed plague and would gradually grow more intelligent if they fed often enough, and the Tsil or spook crystals, intelligent mineral-based lifeforms that can reflect and amplify light and life energy to keep Droch populations in check. See “Planet of Twilight” by Barbara Hambly and “Agents of Chaos I: Hero’s Trial” by James Luceno for more details.

I'm not sure why these things are particularly special when there are already sentient viral plagues, computer hacking daemon spirits etc.


Also, the fanfiction this thread linked to is fucking awful. No due to any particular distaste for what its doing to the background, its just bad.

[Highlord Laan]

Also, the fanfiction this thread linked to is fucking awful. No due to any particular distaste for what its doing to the background, its just bad.

There's plenty of funny moments, but the "new" chaos gods needs to fun into someone of something than can finally start handing them defeats. Right now it reads like a grammatically-correct SI fic.

[white_rabbit]

Also, the fanfiction this thread linked to is fucking awful. No due to any particular distaste for what its doing to the background, its just bad.

There's plenty of funny moments, but the "new" chaos gods needs to fun into someone of something than can finally start handing them defeats. Right now it reads like a grammatically-correct SI fic.

What you call "funny moments" I call lame. Its basically a parody of Evangelion, mixed with the frustration of anime fans over Shinji being a completely fucked up teenager, not a super hero, and the delusional confidence of internet sci-fi fans that if they were put in similar situations, they'd totally do better.

Oh yeah, and doesn't the Shinj character bone all the chaos god female characters ?

Mmm, yeah, no self insertion there, no sirree!

It reads like such a thing, because thats exactly what it is, along with Self-insertions Soul Mate, Curb-stomped Bad Guys, and the twins its fucking on the side, Ultra Competence & Retarded Enemies.

ITS FUCKING AWFUL

[1batman4u]

There's plenty of funny moments, but the "new" chaos gods needs to fun into someone of something than can finally start handing them defeats. Right now it reads like a grammatically-correct SI fic.

As an Evangelion fan, my biggest issue with “the Open Door” is that the Eva pilots are now NPC observers like Elminster, mere anthropomorphic personifications instead of human beings with human feelings and vulnerabilities. The whole point of fiction is to empathize with characters and vicariously see the world through their eyes, which is hard to do when they’ve evolved to another level of reality.

Possible solution: there’s a minor sub-genre in Warhammer fanfiction called Toyhammer where the w40k miniature figurines of some teenaged recluse gets brought to life and proceed to turn his neighborhood into a warzone. A tiny fragment of the neoChaos gods’ essence could be trapped as four-inch-tall mortals. These de-ascended avatars of Shinji, Rei, Asuka, and Misato would have to come to terms with the loss of their godly powers, immortality, and cthtullu-like nature, whether or not they wish to re-merge with their progenitors or remain as corporeal individuals only four inches tall, and the difficulties of conquering people a hundred times bigger than themselves on a shoe-string budget and only one gullible minion (i.e. the teenage recluse whose miniatures came to life).

[Jaeger]

Slightly off topic, but since a third of the story takes place in the Underdark of Faerun, I felt it’d be worth mentioning D&D-style Psionics that draw from your own mental energy unlike Warp-based sorcerers tap into an external source of energy. In “Complete Psionic” they invented Mantles that can let ardents and divine minds siphon psionic power from deities, philosophical concepts, and facets of reality.

Characters with psionic powers are very rare in Faerun, but empowerment rituals are available for those willing to sacrifice XP and GP. With the Weave unstable and the Shadow Weave unattended, some wizards and sorcerers may take the Wild Talent feat as a back-up in case magic falters again like during the Times of Troubles. It’s often difficult to hire high-level spellcasters, so a clever individual might commission a multiple-use Helm of Psionic Awakening that transmute thought pathways to create a dormant talent for psionics where none existed before; you'd still need to take levels in a psionic class to actually manifest powers.

Faerun doesn’t have a god of psionics like Zuoken in the Greyhawk setting, the closest similarity being Deep Duerra of the Duergar and Ilsensine of the Illithid Mind-flayers. However, Gunnhild hasn’t tapped into her demi-god heritage and might end up goddess of psionics.

Possible solution: there’s a minor sub-genre in Warhammer fanfiction called Toyhammer where the w40k miniature figurines of some teenaged recluse gets brought to life and proceed to turn his neighborhood into a warzone. A tiny fragment of the neoChaos gods’ essence could be trapped as four-inch-tall mortals. These de-ascended avatars of Shinji, Rei, Asuka, and Misato would have to come to terms with the loss of their godly powers, immortality, and cthtullu-like nature, whether or not they wish to re-merge with their progenitors or remain as corporeal individuals only four inches tall, and the difficulties of conquering people a hundred times bigger than themselves on a shoe-string budget and only one gullible minion (i.e. the teenage recluse whose miniatures came to life).

Just read 40k: “ToyHammer” by RougePsyker and “Mini-Hammer” by Red Mage Neko. I would love to see mini-Asuka try to boss around a titan-sized otaku while mini-Misato makes lewd innuendo about microphilia and giant fetishes.