Liberalizing Germany in 19th century

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Liberalizing Germany in 19th century

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After reading one of Joschka Fischer's remarks about the Revolutions of 1848 and his theory of if it had succeed in unifying Germany at that time Germany would have been a more liberal state a la France, it got me wondering one question though. Would Germany's chances of political liberalization be better with a successful 1848 unification, or in 1888 with Frederick III surviving and having a longer reign?
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No. You cannot get a unification without Prussia and Prussia liberalizing is a long shot.
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Thanas wrote:No. You cannot get a unification without Prussia and Prussia liberalizing is a long shot.
But wouldn't it be possible though for FWIV to swing in favor of the Frankfurt parliament's offer though, if circumstances had shifted somewhat?
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Like what? They suddenly decided the Emperor would be the ultimate authority after all and the Parliament would not matter at all? Maybe then, but note that he rejected any constitution as hard as he could.
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