Chucks been mostly redoing and posting old stuff on his site, since youtube shut him down. But I don't remember seeing this review of 'the Defiant' before, and it's quite good. http://sfdebris.com/startrek/d455.asp
Re: ODS9 Defiant
Posted: 2011-07-24 12:40pm
by Captain Seafort
He's mostly putting out old stuff, slightly remastered, but Saturdays are still reserved for new reviews.
Re: ODS9 Defiant
Posted: 2011-07-24 08:34pm
by JME2
This is still one of my favorite DS9 episodes.
I loved seeing Sisko and Dukat being forced to team-up again, especially in the wake of "The Maquis".
I also love the foreshadowing and misdirection here, that the Order's fleet... Spoiler
...isn't being built to take on the Maquis, it's being built to take on the Founders.
That and it was also the first appearance of quantum torpedoes.
Re: ODS9 Defiant
Posted: 2011-07-27 11:10pm
by FaxModem1
One thing about this episode that always bugged me. Kira called the Maquis terrorists, and terrorists don't get to be heroes.
And yet, the Maquis are people who are fighting a guerilla war against the Cardassians to establish their own nation and view it more as a revolution than an insurrection. So why do they have to follow the terrorist route?
Re: ODS9 Defiant
Posted: 2011-07-27 11:20pm
by JME2
Well, we know that Starfleet Command -- and Sisko especially -- saw the Maquis as terrorists, not revolutionaries. Yet Kira also sympathized with their conflict with the Cardassians, as did many Bajorans.
My interpretation is that having spent two and half years as DS9's Bajoran liaison, Kira had adopted the Starfleet classification. Her experience on the station showed her that Bajor could no longer be insular and was affected by the Quadrant's geo-politics.
Even Kira saw that the Maquis' actions were making a tenuous situation even worse. And as we know all too well... Spoiler
...the Maquis' actions were one of the factors that led to the Cardassians joining the Dominion.
Re: ODS9 Defiant
Posted: 2011-07-27 11:40pm
by FaxModem1
I think the Klingons helped more with that one.
Re: ODS9 Defiant
Posted: 2011-07-28 12:51am
by JME2
FaxModem1 wrote:I think the Klingons helped more with that one.
Oh, the Klingon invasion was the primary cause; not arguments there. But the Maquis do bear some degree of responsiblity, as Sisko argued in "Blaze of Glory".
The invasion pulled Cardassian forces away from the Fed-Cardie border, giving the Maquis free reign of the DMZ. They then upped the ante when they stole industrial replicators meant for Cardassian economic relief and later when Eddington deployed his biological weapons.
Approaching the Dominion solved Cardassia's Klingon infestation, but also allowed them to strike back at these upstarts who'd humiliated them.