War Memorial "Outsourced" to save costs is full of errors.

N&P: Discuss governments, nations, politics and recent related news here.

Moderators: Alyrium Denryle, Edi, K. A. Pital

Post Reply
User avatar
Crossroads Inc.
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 9233
Joined: 2005-03-20 06:26pm
Location: Defending Sparkeling Bishonen
Contact:

War Memorial "Outsourced" to save costs is full of errors.

Post by Crossroads Inc. »

From Reuters
By Jon Herskovitz
(Reuters) - An Ohio monument unveiled this week to Americans who fought and died in the Korean War has drawn calls for it to be replaced because of glaring omissions and historical inaccuracies including images from the Vietnam War and Desert Storm.

The black granite slab at Ross County Veterans Memorial Park in Chillicothe, Ohio, has sparked criticism from some families of those killed in the 1950-1953 Korean War because names of locals who died in the fighting were left off a plaque honoring area war dead.

Herman Strausbaugh, 81, a Korean War veteran who helped get the memorial built, said he wants to memorial to stay despite the complaints of "nit pickers."

"It represents the people that went over there and fought. The idea was that we put up something about a war that was forgotten and now all of the sudden, it is remembered," Strausbaugh told Reuters.

Among the other mistakes are images of fighter jets introduced in the 1970s flying over soldiers from the Vietnam War standing near a tank introduced in the 1980s that is rolling toward soldiers who look like they are from the Desert Storm campaign of the early 1990s, military historians have said.

Production was outsourced to India, where imaging was done and sent to the veterans group in Ohio before the engravings were made.


Strausbaugh said the committee members did not notice the inaccuracies when they saw an image of the planned memorial.

"It was made out of black granite. It was just beautiful," he told Reuters by telephone.

For some, the biggest gaffe was omitting names of those who died in fighting.

"My family was insulted on the day it was unveiled," said Tina Kutschbach, whose uncle John E. Kutschbach was fatally wounded in 1953 by a grenade in fighting on the Korea peninsula.

He died a few days later at a military hospital in Japan and was buried less than a mile away from the new monument.

Kutschbach's name was one of a half dozen left off the list of 18 on the plaque, she said.

Strausbaugh said the veterans committee used a list of war dead provided by the Department of Defense, but Kutschbach said the names of those killed from the era can be found in a local library and have been known for 60 years.

"It is astonishing that veterans committee did not listen to warnings of inaccuracies or gather easily available information before putting up something that is shameful," she said.

(Reporting by Jon Herskovitz; Editing by Cynthia Osterman)
Not really sure what to say about this other than one would have imagined there would have been someone paying a bit closer attention to the development...
Praying is another way of doing nothing helpful
"Congratulations, you get a cookie. You almost got a fundamental English word correct." Pick
"Outlaw star has spaceships that punch eachother" Joviwan
Read "Tales From The Crossroads"!
Read "One Wrong Turn"!
Dr. Trainwreck
Jedi Knight
Posts: 834
Joined: 2012-06-07 04:24pm

Re: War Memorial "Outsourced" to save costs is full of error

Post by Dr. Trainwreck »

Is it okay to just write "Fuckin' LOL" in this case? Because fuckin' lol.
Ποταμοῖσι τοῖσιν αὐτοῖσιν ἐμϐαίνουσιν, ἕτερα καὶ ἕτερα ὕδατα ἐπιρρεῖ. Δὶς ἐς τὸν αὐτὸν ποταμὸν οὐκ ἂν ἐμβαίης.

The seller was a Filipino called Dr. Wilson Lim, a self-declared friend of the M.I.L.F. -Grumman
User avatar
Tanasinn
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 1765
Joined: 2007-01-21 10:10pm
Location: Void Zone

Re: War Memorial "Outsourced" to save costs is full of error

Post by Tanasinn »

Reminded of the NSA scene frrom Good Will Hunting for some curious reason.
Truth fears no trial.
User avatar
FSTargetDrone
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 7878
Joined: 2004-04-10 06:10pm
Location: Drone HQ, Pennsylvania, USA

Re: War Memorial "Outsourced" to save costs is full of error

Post by FSTargetDrone »

I'm not exactly a nationalist, but when it comes to your flags and your war memorials and such, those things should be produced in the country in question, not outside it.
Image
Grumman
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 2488
Joined: 2011-12-10 09:13am

Re: War Memorial "Outsourced" to save costs is full of error

Post by Grumman »

FSTargetDrone wrote:I'm not exactly a nationalist, but when it comes to your flags and your war memorials and such, those things should be produced in the country in question, not outside it.
I wouldn't necessarily say that, but they should at least be produced by people who know what the hell they're doing. The Abrams is easily recognisable, even in that photograph. And Strausbaugh is a dick if he thinks people's relatives being omitted from a war memorial is a nitpick.
User avatar
Mr. Coffee
is an asshole.
Posts: 3258
Joined: 2005-02-26 07:45am
Location: And banging your mom is half the battle... G.I. Joe!

Re: War Memorial "Outsourced" to save costs is full of error

Post by Mr. Coffee »

And this is why my Pop always said "Son, you get what you pay for. If you're gonna be a cheap bastard then expect shitty work and a shitty product in return."

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Indian company that manufacturer the memorial has "Good, Fast, Cheap: Pick Two" printed on the brochure someplace. The best part, some retard in the flyover state thought it was still a good idea.
Image
Goddammit, now I'm forced to say in public that I agree with Mr. Coffee. - Mike Wong
I never would have thought I would wholeheartedly agree with Coffee... - fgalkin x2
Honestly, this board is so fucking stupid at times. - Thanas
GALE ForceCarwash: Oh, I'll wax that shit, bitch...
User avatar
Irbis
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 2262
Joined: 2011-07-15 05:31pm

Re: War Memorial "Outsourced" to save costs is full of error

Post by Irbis »

Out of curiosity, what is the note taped to the monument on the right?

As for design, no one pointed out sloppy application of 'clone' tool and identical, copy & pasted fighters? Come on, bad reference is bad, but that was lazy :P

Regarding Abrams tank, didn't the guy that gave the tank name fought in Korea? Problem solved! 90s troops can be easily excused, too, maybe designer thought modern audience wouldn't recognize non-Holywood looking US soldiers, tanks, and planes, so they included it for average hamburger eaters? :wink: At least they got the ship right, and it looks like correct date, too.
Patroklos
Sith Devotee
Posts: 2577
Joined: 2009-04-14 11:00am

Re: War Memorial "Outsourced" to save costs is full of error

Post by Patroklos »

No, while he had extensive WWII and Vietnam service he was only present in staff positions at the tale end of Korea.
User avatar
DaveJB
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 1917
Joined: 2003-10-06 05:37pm
Location: Leeds, UK

Re: War Memorial "Outsourced" to save costs is full of error

Post by DaveJB »

Reminds me of the time that James Earl Jones's hometown commissioned a plaque to honour him on Martin Luther King Day... and received a plaque honouring James Earl Ray instead.
Post Reply