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Portuguese journalists beaten by the U.S military.

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IRG CommandoJoe wrote:
Colonel Olrik wrote:http://www.rtp.pt/index.php?article=50722&visual=5

Portuguese TV journalists imprisioned and beaten to a pulp by U.S troops. :evil:

"In the end, Luís Castro mentioned that one of the officers of the 101st brigade said goodbye to them saying that the soldiers implicated in the incident are the shame of the U.S and of the U.S army."
Is there an English translation of this article? I've heard nothing about this on TV. I wonder why... :roll:
You know what? It's fucking amazing. Thisis the Washington Times report on the issue (the only english report I found in a quick google search)

And now, the translated portuguese version (told in the TV and newspapers, and reported live by the journalists in question):

RTP Journalists detained by the U.S army in Iraq

The RTP journalist Luís Castro and the image reporter Victor Silva were detained and beaten, tuesday, by U.S troops under the charge of spionage. The two reporters are already free in Iraq. Live on the TV news, Luís Castro reported to the world the humilliating situation he passed. Remembering that he already had been in jail more times, and that he even was expelled from some countries in the past, the reporter garanteed: "I've never been subject of such a humillation".

The journalist team entered, past Sunday, in Iraq, and in the next tuesday, between Karbala and Najaf, were confronted by the north american authorities, because the two french journalists acompanying them didn't have gas masks.

Between choosing to leave the french alone in the middle of the desert without means of transportation or moving back to search for some masks, the two journalists went with their companions to the nearest town.

[.. irrelevant ..]

In the morning the four journalists went to the military U.S post. Here, they were stopped by the military police, who asked for their ID. Then, they searched the material they transported and made them lie on the floor, threatning to shoot if they moved.

Half an hour later, they let them sit facing a wall. It was cold and the sand storm was raging.

[bla bla]

Two or three hours later, Luis de Castro asked for them to be allowed to phone their families, as they had to be concerned about their dissapearance.

Then, the troops made him leave, handcuffed him, beaten him and dragged him inside the instalations. Threatening all the journalists, the troops let him go again to the jeep. The next 24 hours were past without exchanging a word.

After those 24 hours, the troops returned, apologized and served coffee. They were transported to Kuweit by helicopter, but the military kept all their equipment, for fear that it would spoil the reputation of the U.S army.

In the end, Luís Castro mentioned that one of the officers of the 101st brigade said goodbye to them saying that the soldiers implicated in the incident are the shame of the U.S and of the U.S army.

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Well, another piece of war propaganda by the Washington Times.
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The journalists may have recorded areas sensitive to the war effort, and the beatings may have been entirely fabricated. Is there any proof they occured? In a situation like this the government of the nation who's nationals were harmed would normally issue a state of protest. Why has this not occured? Several days have passed since the article, let alone the event in question. This is over-dramatized anti-US propaganda, exagerrated to the point of farce.
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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:The journalists may have recorded areas sensitive to the war effort, and the beatings may have been entirely fabricated. Is there any proof they occured? In a situation like this the government of the nation who's nationals were harmed would normally issue a state of protest. Why has this not occured? Several days have passed since the article, let alone the event in question. This is over-dramatized anti-US propaganda, exagerrated to the point of farce.
These are journalists from the public TV channel. They have a light pro-american drivel. Our major news agencies are one of the more pro-american media you can find in Europe. And they don't fabricate facts. That particular journalist is a war veteran well known and respected in Portugal. He appeared on TV bruized and telling this exact same story. His character is not in doubt.

I don't know about official protests, but I haven't been following the story. I had forgotten about it until I saw IRG CommandoJoe 's request for an english link.
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Maybe he had the bad luck to cross path with a fucking kkk moron. :?
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HRRMM, Duchess, another thing. One of the things that the Washington Times report and the Portuguese RTP1 report do agree is that there was a beating.
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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:The journalists may have recorded areas sensitive to the war effort, and the beatings may have been entirely fabricated. Is there any proof they occured?
Like physical trauma on the body of the journalist beaten? :roll:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:In a situation like this the government of the nation who's nationals were harmed would normally issue a state of protest. Why has this not occured?
It's never good to criticise America at the best of times, let alone when their head of State says; you're either with us or against us. Should Blair be complaining to Bush for the loss of lives of the British troops due to American friendly fire? Of course, but he will do so privately not openly when in an alliance.
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Several days have passed since the article, let alone the event in question. This is over-dramatized anti-US propaganda, exagerrated to the point of farce.
Well if only we had your amazing insight to be able to determine the motives and facts concerning a matter thay you were not directly involved with or were able to observe :roll:
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WOW...
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It's quite bad, I think. And it's not the worst which could have happened. Instead of beating, the jours could be accidentaly dead from a bomb strike.
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I remember someone (fgalkin?) said that it's much different in the West - no one beats reporters... Oh, too bad that it doesn't work when things come to war.
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Stas Bush wrote:WOW...
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It's quite bad, I think. And it's not the worst which could have happened. Instead of beating, the jours could be accidentaly dead from a bomb strike.
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I remember someone (fgalkin?) said that it's much different in the West - no one beats reporters... Oh, too bad that it doesn't work when things come to war.
There are violent jackass troops in all militaries. It's actually a requirement to do good in some branches. I somehow doubt that Saddam's troops would apologize and try to compensate the reporters, and that an enquirement into it would be made. I just posted this partially because of IRG CommandoJoe post, partially because the Washington Times article pissed me off a bit. War reporters know the risk they're taking.
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Saddam's troops would apologize and try to compensate the reporters
Yeah, neither do I. There are always freaks, and Iraqis could be more ruthless.
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Colonel Olrik wrote:HRRMM, Duchess, another thing. One of the things that the Washington Times report and the Portuguese RTP1 report do agree is that there was a beating.
Or at least that one was reported by the family members of the journalists. Have the news agencies in Portugal shown pictures of physical injuries to these men? I'll take your word for it and concede the matter if you say they have; I trust you to honestly report something.
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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Colonel Olrik wrote:HRRMM, Duchess, another thing. One of the things that the Washington Times report and the Portuguese RTP1 report do agree is that there was a beating.
Or at least that one was reported by the family members of the journalists. Have the news agencies in Portugal shown pictures of physical injuries to these men? I'll take your word for it and concede the matter if you say they have; I trust you to honestly report something.
Re-read his first response to you, first paragraph, third line, second-last sentence.
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The sons of bitches responsible ought to be court martialed. :evil:
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Let me see if I have this correct:

A group of people claiming to be reporters approached a military formation.
At first, the forces offer warnings for the jounalists safety. Then after finding from command that they have no accredited jounalist listed by the given names, the decision to err on the side of caution is made to take them down hard and quick to prevent any chance of a terrorist act.
They were then detained for 36 hours until the sandstorm subsided and a helicopter was available to transport them to Kuwait.

Considering the idiocy of these jounalist to enter a battlezone, approach a formation with order to "shoot anything that moves", all without proper identification, they should be thankful that they walked away with nothing more that a couple broken ribs.
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Phil Skayhan wrote:Let me see if I have this correct:

A group of people claiming to be reporters approached a military formation.
At first, the forces offer warnings for the jounalists safety. Then after finding from command that they have no accredited jounalist listed by the given names, the decision to err on the side of caution is made to take them down hard and quick to prevent any chance of a terrorist act.
They were then detained for 36 hours until the sandstorm subsided and a helicopter was available to transport them to Kuwait.

Considering the idiocy of these jounalist to enter a battlezone, approach a formation with order to "shoot anything that moves", all without proper identification, they should be thankful that they walked away with nothing more that a couple broken ribs.
Capturing = OK.
Beating them up = not OK.
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Phil Skayhan wrote:Let me see if I have this correct:

A group of people claiming to be reporters approached a military formation.
At first, the forces offer warnings for the jounalists safety. Then after finding from command that they have no accredited jounalist listed by the given names, the decision to err on the side of caution is made to take them down hard and quick to prevent any chance of a terrorist act.
They were then detained for 36 hours until the sandstorm subsided and a helicopter was available to transport them to Kuwait.

Considering the idiocy of these jounalist to enter a battlezone, approach a formation with order to "shoot anything that moves", all without proper identification, they should be thankful that they walked away with nothing more that a couple broken ribs.
Did you read the portuguese report translated version or only the Washington times version?

They were in a city and went to the U.S military outpost. It wasn't the middle of a war zone. Also, I've never seen mentioned the lack of papers in our press, only in the Washington times. At least, they had to have some papers (E.U ID, if nothing else), two french and two portuguese are hard to confuse with iraqi spies.

Then they asked to phone their families and were beaten up.
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Captain Jack wrote: Capturing = OK.
Beating them up = not OK.
This is a situation where I believe all the facts have not been heard. I don't doubt the credibility of the Portugese reporter but the only story we currently have is his.

One thing the story is unclear about, did Louis de Castro have accredidation? It is stated that the Isrealis (why does the story at the top of the thread say French?) did not but nothing about Castro.
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Yes, I read it. But I'm also looking at a number of reports. It seems the discrepency is between what you posted and UPI and other news agencies

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=Por ... ournalists+
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The Washington Times report says 3 people, not 4, and nothing about the gas masks. All it says is that the journalists approached a military formation of 6 tanks, and that the soldiers told them not to approach because the journalists could not be identified due to the sandstorm. As far as I can see, this is either a case of a reporter making some stupid, sudden move and getting a rifle butt in the ribs for it, or a US soldier getting in a cheap shot. But there is no hard evidence to go on now either way.
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So much could be happening here...

One, remember, there are violent assholes all around the world, including in militaries. Anyone remember that incident where the Canadian paratroopers beat a black guy in a racist incident? The entire Paratrooper regiment was disbanded.

The troops also may well have been overzealous or fearful of a Fedyeen attack-- this is explanation more than excuse. If the rteporters were warned but kept coming, it would raise suspiciouns.

And let's face it, something we are horrible for in America is ethnic ignorance. If the Portuguese guys were dark skinned at all, they may have "looked like Arabs" to the soldiers. When my girlfriend Sarit (an Israeli of Persian background) visited America, everyone thought she was Mexican.

The guys who did the beating should face some discipline, and I don't mean a week of toilet-cleaning, I mean real punishment. This shames the average US soldier trying to fight the good fight.
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Phil Skayhan wrote:Yes, I read it. But I'm also looking at a number of reports. It seems the discrepency is between what you posted and UPI and other news agencies

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=Por ... ournalists+
OK, I checked other sources and it appears that the fucker who wrote the report I translated got some facts wrong. Now I took the information from the most respected portuguese newspaper website, and it checks out with other sources.

Their companions were indeed Israeli, not French. The israeli didn't have the necessary papers, but the portuguese had. They went by Jeep to Najaf, north of Bassorá and stayed overnight next to the U.S troops there. After that, the facts match. They were arrested and, when one asked to phone their family, beaten up.

(in portuguese)

http://www.expresso.pt/interior/default.asp?id=24737556
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Coyote wrote:So much could be happening here...

One, remember, there are violent assholes all around the world, including in militaries. Anyone remember that incident where the Canadian paratroopers beat a black guy in a racist incident? The entire Paratrooper regiment was disbanded.
They beat him to death, hence the heavy-handed reaction. There were also rumours of white-supremacism as a motive in the beating.
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Uh you might want to re-read that artical Mike, nothing in there about the soldiers killing him. Pretty big fact to be omitted, unlike the Israelis being French thing.
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Whoops I was looking at the wrong thing Mike, sorry I thought you were talking about the incident in the ME, not the one in Canada.
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Crown wrote:
Re-read his first response to you, first paragraph, third line, second-last sentence.
Quite so. My apologies, Olrik. That was hasty of me.
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OK, I checked other sources and it appears that the fucker who wrote the report I translated got some facts wrong. Now I took the information from the most respected portuguese newspaper website, and it checks out with other sources.

Their companions were indeed Israeli, not French. The israeli didn't have the necessary papers, but the portuguese had. They went by Jeep to Najaf, north of Bassorá and stayed overnight next to the U.S troops there. After that, the facts match. They were arrested and, when one asked to phone their family, beaten up.

(in portuguese)

http://www.expresso.pt/interior/default.asp?id=24737556
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THE light was a strange yellowy grey and the wind was coming up, the beginnings of a sandstorm. The silence felt almost eerie after a night of shooting so intense it hurt the eardrums and shattered the nerves. My footsteps felt heavy on the hot, dusty asphalt as I walked slowly towards the bridge at Nasiriya. A horrific scene lay ahead.

Some 15 vehicles, including a minivan and a couple of trucks, blocked the road. They were riddled with bullet holes. Some had caught fire and turned into piles of black twisted metal. Others were still burning.

Amid the wreckage I counted 12 dead civilians, lying in the road or in nearby ditches. All had been trying to leave this southern town overnight, probably for fear of being killed by US helicopter attacks and heavy artillery.

Their mistake had been to flee over a bridge that is crucial to the coalition’s supply lines and to run into a group of shell-shocked young American marines with orders to shoot anything that moved.

One man’s body was still in flames. It gave out a hissing sound. Tucked away in his breast pocket, thick wads of banknotes were turning to ashes. His savings, perhaps.

Down the road, a little girl, no older than five and dressed in a pretty orange and gold dress, lay dead in a ditch next to the body of a man who may have been her father. Half his head was missing.

Nearby, in a battered old Volga, peppered with ammunition holes, an Iraqi woman — perhaps the girl’s mother — was dead, slumped in the back seat. A US Abrams tank nicknamed Ghetto Fabulous drove past the bodies.

This was not the only family who had taken what they thought was a last chance for safety. A father, baby girl and boy lay in a shallow grave. On the bridge itself a dead Iraqi civilian lay next to the carcass of a donkey.

As I walked away, Lieutenant Matt Martin, whose third child, Isabella, was born while he was on board ship en route to the Gulf, appeared beside me.

“Did you see all that?” he asked, his eyes filled with tears. “Did you see that little baby girl? I carried her body and buried it as best I could but I had no time. It really gets to me to see children being killed like this, but we had no choice.”

Martin’s distress was in contrast to the bitter satisfaction of some of his fellow marines as they surveyed the scene. “The Iraqis are sick people and we are the chemotherapy,” said Corporal Ryan Dupre. “I am starting to hate this country. Wait till I get hold of a friggin’ Iraqi. No, I won’t get hold of one. I’ll just kill him.”

Only a few days earlier these had still been the bright-eyed small-town boys with whom I crossed the border at the start of the operation. They had rolled towards Nasiriya, a strategic city beside the Euphrates, on a mission to secure a safe supply route for troops on the way to Baghdad.

They had expected a welcome, or at least a swift surrender. Instead they had found themselves lured into a bloody battle, culminating in the worst coalition losses of the war — 16 dead, 12 wounded and two missing marines as well as five dead and 12 missing servicemen from an army convoy — and the humiliation of having prisoners paraded on Iraqi television.

There are three key bridges at Nasiriya. The feat of Martin, Dupre and their fellow marines in securing them under heavy fire was compared by armchair strategists last week to the seizure of the Remagen bridge over the Rhine, which significantly advanced victory over Germany in the second world war.

But it was also the turning point when the jovial band of brothers from America lost all their assumptions about the war and became jittery aggressors who talked of wanting to “nuke” the place.

None of this was foreseen at Camp Shoup, one of the marines’ tent encampments in northern Kuwait, where officers from the 1st and 2nd battalions of Task Force Tarawa, the 7,000-strong US Marines brigade, spent long evenings poring over maps and satellite imagery before the invasion.

The plan seemed straightforward. The marines would speed unhindered over the

130 miles of desert up from the Kuwaiti border and approach Nasiriya from the southeast to secure a bridge over the Euphrates. They would then drive north through the outskirts of Nasiriya to a second bridge, over the Inahr al-Furbati canal. Finally, they would turn west and secure the third bridge, also over the canal. The marines would not enter the city proper, let alone attempt to take it.

The coalition could then start moving thousands of troops and logistical support units up highway 7, leading to Baghdad, 225 miles to the north.

There was only one concern: “ambush alley”, the road connecting the first two bridges. But intelligence suggested there would be little or no fighting as this eastern side of the city was mostly “pro-American”.

I was with Alpha company. We reached the outskirts of Nasiriya at about breakfast time last Sunday. Some marines were disappointed to be carrying out a mission that seemed a sideshow to the main effort. But in an ominous sign of things to come, our battalion stopped in its tracks, three miles outside the city.


Bad news filtered back. Earlier that morning a US Army convoy had been greeted by a group of Iraqis dressed in civilian clothes, apparently wanting to surrender. When the American soldiers stopped, the Iraqis pulled out AK-47s and sprayed the US trucks with gunfire.

Five wounded soldiers were rescued by our convoy, including one who had been shot four times. The attackers were believed to be members of the Fedayeen Saddam, a group of 15,000 fighters under the command of Saddam’s psychopathic son Uday.

Blown-up tyres, a pool of blood, spent ammunition and shards of glass from the bulletridden windscreen marked the spot where the ambush had taken place. Swiftly, our AAVs (23-ton amphibious assault vehicles) took up defensive positions. About 100 marines jumped out of their vehicles and took cover in ditches, pointing their sights at a mud-caked house. Was it harbouring gunmen? Small groups of marines approached, cautiously, to search for the enemy. A dozen terrified civilians, mainly women and children, emerged with their hands raised.

“It’s just a bunch of Hajis,” said one gunner from his turret, using their nickname for Arabs. “Friggin’ women and children, that’s all.”

Cobras and Huey attack helicopters began firing missiles at targets on the edge of the city. Plumes of smoke rose as heavy artillery shook the ground under our feet.

Heavy machinegun fire echoed across the huge rubbish dump that marks the entrance to Nasiriya. Suddenly there was return fire from three large oil tanks at a refinery. The Cobras were called back, and within seconds they roared above our heads, firing off missiles in clouds of purple tracer fire.



There were several loud explosions. Flames burst high into the sky from one of the oil tanks. The marines believed that what opposition there was had now been crushed. “We are going in, we are going in,” shouted one of the officers.

More than 20 AAVs, several tanks and about 10 Hummers equipped with roof-mounted, anti-tank missile launchers prepared to move in. Crammed inside them were some 400 marines. Tension rose as they loaded their guns and stuck their heads over the side of the AAVs through the open roof, their M-16 pointed in all directions.

As we set off towards the eastern city gate there was no sense of the mayhem awaiting us down the road. A few locals dressed in rags watched the awesome spectacle of America’s war machine on the move. Nobody waved.

Slowly we approached the first bridge. Fires were raging on either side of the road; Cobras had destroyed an Iraqi military truck and a T55 tank positioned inside a dugout. Powerful explosions came from inside the bowels of the tank as its ammunition and heavy shells were set off by the fire. With each explosion a thick and perfect ring of black smoke ring puffed out of the turret.

An Iraqi defence post lay abandoned. Cobras flew over an oasis of palm trees and deserted brick and mud-caked houses. We charged onto the bridge, and as we crossed the Euphrates, a large mural of Saddam came into view. Some marines reached for their disposable cameras.

Suddenly, as we approached ambush alley on the far side of the bridge, the crackle of AK-47s broke out. Our AAVs began to zigzag to avoid being hit by a rocket-propelled grenade (RPG).

The road widened out to a square, with a mosque and the portrait of Saddam on the left-hand side. The vehicles wheeled round, took up a defensive position, back to back, and began taking fire.

Pinned down, the marines fired back with 40mm automatic grenade launchers, a weapon so powerful it can go through thick brick walls and kill anyone within a 5-yard range of where the shell lands.

I was in AAV number A304, affectionately nicknamed the Desert Caddy. It shook as Keith Bernize, the gunner, fired off round after deafening round at sandbag positions shielding suspected Fedayeen fighters. His steel ammunition box clanged with the sound of smoking empty shells and cartridges.

Bernize, who always carries a scan picture of his unborn baby daughter with him, shot at the targets from behind a turret, peering through narrow slits of reinforced glass. He shouted at his men to feed him more ammunition. Four marines, standing at the AAV’s four corners, precariously perched on ammunition boxes, fired off their M-16s.

Their faces covered in sweat, officers shouted commands into field radios, giving co-ordinates of enemy positions. Some 200 marines, fully exposed to enemy fire and slowed down by their heavy weapons, bulky ammunition packs and NBC suits, ran across the road, taking shelter behind a long brick wall and mounds of earth. A team of snipers appeared, yards from our vehicle.

The exchange of fire was relentless. We were pinned down for more than three hours as Iraqis hiding inside houses and a hospital and behind street corners fired a barrage of ammunition.

Despite the marines’ overwhelming firepower, hitting the Iraqis was not easy. The gunmen were not wearing uniforms and had planned their ambush well — stockpiling weapons in dozens of houses, between which they moved freely pretending to be civilians.

“It’s a bad situation,” said First Sergeant James Thompson, who was running around with a 9mm pistol in his hand. “We don’t know who is shooting at us. They are even using women as scouts. The women come out waving at us, or with their hands raised. We freeze, but the next minute we can see how she is looking at our positions and giving them away to the fighters hiding behind a street corner. It’s very difficult to distinguish between the fighters and civilians.”

Across the square, genuine civilians were running for their lives. Many, including some children, were gunned down in the crossfire. In a surreal scene, a father and mother stood out on a balcony with their children in their arms to give them a better view of the battle raging below. A few minutes later several US mortar shells landed in front of their house. In all probability, the family is dead.

The fighting intensified. An Iraqi fighter emerged from behind a wall of sandbags 500 yards away from our vehicle. Several times he managed to fire off an RPG at our positions. Bernize and other gunners fired dozens of rounds at his dugout, punching large holes into a house and lifting thick clouds of dust.

Captain Mike Brooks, commander of Alpha company, pinned down in front of the mosque, called in tank support. Armed with only a 9mm pistol, he jumped out of the back of his AAV with a young marine carrying a field radio on his back.

Brooks, 34, from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, had been in command of 200 men for just over a year. He joined the marines when he was 19 because he felt that he was wasting his life. He needed direction, was a bit of a rebel and was impressed by the sense of pride in the corps.

He is a soft-spoken man, fair but very firm. Brave too: I watched him sprint in front of enemy positions to brief some of his junior officers behind a wall. Behind us, two 68-ton Abrams tanks rolled up, crushing the barrier separating the lanes on the highway.

The earth shook violently as one tank, Desert Knight, stopped in front of our row of AAVS and fired several 120mm shells into buildings.

A few hundred yards down ambush alley there was carnage. An AAV from Charlie company was racing back towards the bridge to evacuate some wounded marines when it was hit by two RPGs. The heavy vehicle shook but withstood the explosions.

Then the Iraqis fired again. This time the rocket plunged into the vehicle through the open rooftop. The explosion was deadly, made 10 times more powerful by the ammunition stored in the back.

The wreckage smouldered in the middle of the road. I jumped out from the rear hatch of our vehicle, briefly taking cover behind a wall. When I reached the stricken AAV, the scene was mayhem.

The heavy, thick rear ramp had been blown open. There were pools of blood and bits of flesh everywhere. A severed leg, still wearing a desert boot, lay on what was left of the ramp among playing cards, a magazine, cans of Coke and a small bloodstained teddy bear.

“They are f****** dead, they are dead. Oh my God. Get in there. Get in there now and pull them out,” shouted a gunner in a state verging on hysterical.

There was panic and confusion as a group of young marines, shouting and cursing orders at one another, pulled out a maimed body.

Two men struggled to lift the body on a stretcher and into the back of a Hummer, but it would not fit inside, so the stretcher remained almost upright, the dead man’s leg, partly blown away, dangling in the air.

“We shouldn’t be here,” said Lieutenant Campbell Kane, 25, who was born in Northern Ireland. “We can’t hold this. They are trying to suck us into the city and we haven’t got enough ass up here to sustain this. We need more tanks, more helicopters.”

Closer to the destroyed AAV, another young marine was transfixed with fear and kept repeating: “Oh my God, I can’t believe this. Did you see his leg? It was blown off. It was blown off.”

Two CH-46 helicopters, nicknamed Frogs, landed a few hundred yards away in the middle of a firefight to take away the dead and wounded.

If at first the marines felt constrained by orders to protect civilians, by now the battle had become so intense that there was little time for niceties. Cobra helicopters were ordered to fire at a row of houses closest to our positions. There were massive explosions but the return fire barely died down.

Behind us, as many as four AAVs that had driven down along the banks of the Euphrates were stuck in deep mud and coming under fire.

About 1pm, after three hours of intense fighting, the order was given to regroup and try to head out of the city in convoy. Several marines who had lost their vehicles piled into the back of ours.

We raced along ambush alley at full speed, close to a line of houses. “My driver got hit,” said one of the marines who joined us, his face and uniform caked in mud. “I went to try to help him when he got hit by another RPG or a mortar. I don’t even know how many friends I have lost. I don’t care if they nuke that bloody city now. From one house they were waving while shooting at us with AKs from the next. It was insane.”

There was relief when we finally crossed the second bridge to the northeast of the city in mid-afternoon. But there was more horror to come. Beside the smouldering wreckage of another AAV were the bodies of another four marines, laid out in the mud and covered with camouflage ponchos. There were body parts everywhere.

One of the dead was Second Lieutenant Fred Pokorney, 31, a marine artillery officer from Washington state. He was a big guy, whose ill-fitting uniform was the butt of many jokes. It was supposed to have been a special day for Pokorney. After 13 years of service, he was to be promoted to first lieutenant. The men of Charlie company had agreed they would all shake hands with him to celebrate as soon as they crossed the second bridge, their mission accomplished.

It didn’t happen. Pokorney made it over the second bridge and a few hundred yards down a highway through dusty flatlands before his vehicle was ambushed. Pokorney and his men had no chance. Fully loaded with ammunition, their truck exploded in the middle of the road, its remains burning for hours. Pokorney was hit in the chest by an RPG.


Another man who died was Fitzgerald Jordan, a staff sergeant from Texas. I felt numb when I heard this. I had met Jordan 10 days before we moved into Nasiriya. He was a character, always chewing tobacco and coming up to pat you on the back. He got me to fetch newspapers for him from Kuwait City. Later, we shared a bumpy ride across the desert in the back of a Humvee.

A decorated Gulf war veteran, he used to complain about having to come back to Iraq. “We should have gone all the way to Baghdad 12 years ago when we were here and had a real chance of removing Saddam.”

Now Pokorney, Jordan and their comrades lay among unspeakable carnage. An older marine walked by carrying a huge chunk of flesh, so maimed it was impossible to tell which body part it was. With tears in his eyes and blood splattered over his flak jacket, he held the remains of his friend in his arms until someone gave him a poncho to wrap them with.

Frantic medics did what they could to relieve horrific injuries, until four helicopters landed in the middle of the highway to take the injured to a military hospital. Each wounded marine had a tag describing his injury. One had gunshot wounds to the face, another to the chest. Another simply lay on his side in the sand with a tag reading: “Urgent — surgery, buttock.”

One young marine was assigned the job of keeping the flies at bay. Some of his comrades, exhausted, covered in blood, dirt and sweat walked around dazed. There were loud cheers as the sound of the heaviest artillery yet to pound Nasiriya shook the ground.

Before last week the overwhelming majority of these young men had never been in combat. Few had even seen a dead body. Now, their faces had changed. Anger and fear were fuelled by rumours that the bodies of American soldiers had been dragged through Nasiriya’s streets. Some marines cried in the arms of friends, others sought comfort in the Bible.

Next morning, the men of Alpha company talked about the fighting over MREs (meals ready to eat). They were jittery now and reacted nervously to any movement around their dugouts. They suspected that civilian cars, including taxis, had helped resupply the enemy inside the city. When cars were spotted speeding along two roads, frantic calls were made over the radio to get permission to “kill the vehicles”. Twenty-four hours earlier it would almost certainly have been denied: now it was granted.

Immediately, the level of force levelled at civilian vehicles was overwhelming. Tanks were placed on the road and AAVs lined along one side. Several taxis were destroyed by helicopter gunships as they drove down the road.

A lorry filled with sacks of wheat made the fatal mistake of driving through US lines. The order was given to fire. Several AAVs pounded it with a barrage of machinegun fire, riddling the windscreen with at least 20 holes. The driver was killed instantly. The lorry swerved off the road and into a ditch. Rumour spread that the driver had been armed and had fired at the marines. I walked up to the lorry, but could find no trace of a weapon.

This was the start of day that claimed many civilian casualties. After the lorry a truck came down the road. Again the marines fired. Inside, four men were killed. They had been travelling with some 10 other civilians, mainly women and children who were evacuated, crying, their clothes splattered in blood. Hours later a dog belonging to the dead driver was still by his side.

The marines moved west to take a military barracks and secure their third objective, the third bridge, which carried a road out of the city.

At the barracks, the marines hung a US flag from a statue of Saddam, but Lieutenant-Colonel Rick Grabowski, the battalion commander, ordered it down. He toured barracks. There were stacks of Russian-made ammunition and hundreds of Iraqi army uniforms, some new, others left behind by fleeing Iraqi soldiers.

One room had a map of Nasiriya, showing its defences and two large cardboard arrows indicating the US plan of attack to take the two main bridges. Above the map were several murals praising Saddam. One, which sickened the Americans, showed two large civilian planes crashing into tall buildings.

As night fell again there was great tension, the marines fearing an ambush. Two tanks and three AAVs were placed at the north end of the third bridge, their guns pointing down towards Nasiriya, and given orders to shoot at any vehicle that drove towards American positions.

Though civilians on foot passed by safely, the policy was to shoot anything that moved on wheels. Inevitably, terrified civilians drove at speed to escape: marines took that speed to be a threat and hit out. During the night, our teeth on edge, we listened a dozen times as the AVVs’ machineguns opened fire, cutting through cars and trucks like paper.

Next morning I saw the result of this order — the dead civilians, the little girl in the orange and gold dress.

Suddenly, some of the young men who had crossed into Iraq with me reminded me now of their fathers’ generation, the trigger-happy grunts of Vietnam. Covered in the mud from the violent storms, they were drained and dangerously aggressive.

In the days afterwards, the marines consolidated their position and put a barrier of trucks across the bridge to stop anyone from driving across, so there were no more civilian deaths.

They also ruminated on what they had done. Some rationalised it.

“I was shooting down a street when suddenly a woman came out and casually began to cross the street with a child no older than 10,” said Gunnery Sergeant John Merriman, another Gulf war veteran. “At first I froze on seeing the civilian woman. She then crossed back again with the child and went behind a wall. Within less than a minute a guy with an RPG came out and fired at us from behind the same wall. This happened a second time so I thought, ‘Okay, I get it. Let her come out again’.

She did and this time I took her out with my M-16.” Others were less sanguine.

Mike Brooks was one of the commanders who had given the order to shoot at civilian vehicles. It weighed on his mind, even though he felt he had no choice but to do everything to protect his marines from another ambush.

On Friday, making coffee in the dust, he told me he had been writing a diary, partly for his wife Kelly, a nurse at home in Jacksonville, North Carolina, with their sons Colin, 6, and four-year-old twins Brian and Evan.

When he came to jotting down the incident about the two babies getting killed by his men he couldn’t do it. But he said he would tell her when he got home. I offered to let him call his wife on my satellite phone to tell her he was okay. He turned down the offer and had me write and send her an e-mail instead.

He was too emotional. If she heard his voice, he said, she would know that something was wrong.
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- It does not seem unprobable that some who have suffered from that sort of tension are going to react to a request for a comfort to which they are denied, by either the extremity of the situation, or by their own tortured minds, with brutality. I cannot excuse such injury to a neutral citizen of a foreign natural friendly to the U.S., and I hope those responsible are punished. But it does become understandable in the context of those who have seen such action in uncertain times against an enemy which of such deceptive and vicious nature.
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