What drugs should be legal?
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What drugs should be legal?
After reading this thread, I get the distinct impression that the basic consensus on this board is that not ALL illegal drugs should be illegal. So, what would you consider, assuming any drugs at all should be illegal, the drugs that should be legal?
My list is as follows:
Marijuana
LSD
Peyote (thus mescaline)
Psilocybin Mushrooms
AMT (recently illegalized, with no legitimate reasoning)
5-MeO-DiPT
2-C-T-7
2C-B
That's all I can think of off the top of my head. What does everyone else think?(Remember, this is under the assumption that ANY prohibition is ok.)
My list is as follows:
Marijuana
LSD
Peyote (thus mescaline)
Psilocybin Mushrooms
AMT (recently illegalized, with no legitimate reasoning)
5-MeO-DiPT
2-C-T-7
2C-B
That's all I can think of off the top of my head. What does everyone else think?(Remember, this is under the assumption that ANY prohibition is ok.)
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All the rest? Too long.
All the rest? Too long.
I have yet to encounter any harmfull effects from marijuana users, I wouldn't oppose the current efforts to decriminalize it here in Canada.
I would *perhaps* not oppose an efforts to decriminalize other heavier drugs that aren't addictive, but still heavily restricted (like when and where you can 'trip' out).
I would *perhaps* not oppose an efforts to decriminalize other heavier drugs that aren't addictive, but still heavily restricted (like when and where you can 'trip' out).
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All natural ones that you can grow in your own flower box should be legal. All others should be by perscription only. Did you know Viagara is a black market drug?Montcalm wrote:Easy the only drugs that should be legalised are the natural ones like marijuana and other plant based,the chemicaly created ones like LSD banned.
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Only weed. and shrooms should be legal. If it grows naturally ou of the ground it should be legal. If it takes a chemical process to make it into it's final form, it should be illegal.
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No i did`nt know do they use it as a narcotic or just to have a harder weiner?Ewo wrote:All natural ones that you can grow in your own flower box should be legal. All others should be by perscription only. Did you know Viagara is a black market drug?Montcalm wrote:Easy the only drugs that should be legalised are the natural ones like marijuana and other plant based,the chemicaly created ones like LSD banned.
I don't think you can use it as a nracotic, I could be wrong, but it works so well that doctors have to keep it locked at night so the cleaning people dont' steal it and sell it. This one guy won amateur night at the local strip club because he took viagara a little while before going on stage and could perform with a hard on for half an hour! It was weird, kind of freaky, like maybe he had an accident and it was permanently stuck like that. But he had just taken Viagara.Montcalm wrote:No i did`nt know do they use it as a narcotic or just to have a harder weiner?Ewo wrote:All natural ones that you can grow in your own flower box should be legal. All others should be by perscription only. Did you know Viagara is a black market drug?
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I see people who act pretty stupid while stoned. Hey, let's drive 80 MPH down a windy country road and leave skid marks that are still visible three months after it happened!
So I have a negative view of pot.
I say whatever, just don't get so fucked up (on ANYTHING) that you hurt other people. I say don't make the drug itself a crime, but make hurting others while intoxicated by drugs a MAJOR crime. I mean worse than even the current DUI laws.
So I have a negative view of pot.
I say whatever, just don't get so fucked up (on ANYTHING) that you hurt other people. I say don't make the drug itself a crime, but make hurting others while intoxicated by drugs a MAJOR crime. I mean worse than even the current DUI laws.
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Why? Alcohol can fuck you up just as badly as pot. Alcohol can even kill you if you drink too much of it.Uraniun235 wrote:I see people who act pretty stupid while stoned. Hey, let's drive 80 MPH down a windy country road and leave skid marks that are still visible three months after it happened!
So I have a negative view of pot.
I say whatever, just don't get so fucked up (on ANYTHING) that you hurt other people. I say don't make the drug itself a crime, but make hurting others while intoxicated by drugs a MAJOR crime. I mean worse than even the current DUI laws.
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everything should be legal, but everything should be regulated. people are going to fucking use anyway, why not make sure they can use clean shit, in a safe environment? better then have someone get fucked while driving a car or something.
not that it wont happen, but people will be less inclined to do so.
and for you people who gripe about natural vs unnatural, let me say these two things: most of the fucking drugs people use are natural, like LSD, that comes from Rye fungus, or the near twin of heroin, aka Codeine, that shits natural too.
but what makes a synthetic more dangerous or more inherently bad? if i whip up a batch of synth-caffeine is that somehow worse then natural caffeine? or maybe if i add a hydrogen to this codeine molecule its somehow more EVIL
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not that it wont happen, but people will be less inclined to do so.
and for you people who gripe about natural vs unnatural, let me say these two things: most of the fucking drugs people use are natural, like LSD, that comes from Rye fungus, or the near twin of heroin, aka Codeine, that shits natural too.
but what makes a synthetic more dangerous or more inherently bad? if i whip up a batch of synth-caffeine is that somehow worse then natural caffeine? or maybe if i add a hydrogen to this codeine molecule its somehow more EVIL
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Marijuana leaves, coca leaves (they're not really drugs, mind you), alcohol... coffee and tea if you consider them drugs also. Their indiscriminate use should be a crime WHEN it hurts people, not because "it just might hurt people if you someday get really stoned while piloting an airplane dodging buildings inside a city and juggling balls at the same time".
Also the kind of drugs that cause permanent brain damage even under the normal use (i.e. not overdosing) and create a near-absolute and undefeatable addiction in almost 100% of the cases (and withdrawal effects are completely unbearable), like cocaine or heroine or crack, etc. should definitely be banned. Don't know what perm effects LSD has though, or its degree of adiction.
Also the kind of drugs that cause permanent brain damage even under the normal use (i.e. not overdosing) and create a near-absolute and undefeatable addiction in almost 100% of the cases (and withdrawal effects are completely unbearable), like cocaine or heroine or crack, etc. should definitely be banned. Don't know what perm effects LSD has though, or its degree of adiction.
Everything. My body is mine, not the government's, so I don't think that they should be able to tell me what is or isn't right to do to it. I am perfectly capable of making that decision on my own.
The "War on Drugs" is a fucking joke; tens of billions of dollars going no where every year. Anyone who wants to can get illegal drugs, so I don't think we're going to see a national epidemic of new drug users if they're legalized. I mean, how many people do you know who say "Boy, I wish I could be a heroin addict, but it would just cost so much money! I guess not..."
The "War on Drugs" is a fucking joke; tens of billions of dollars going no where every year. Anyone who wants to can get illegal drugs, so I don't think we're going to see a national epidemic of new drug users if they're legalized. I mean, how many people do you know who say "Boy, I wish I could be a heroin addict, but it would just cost so much money! I guess not..."
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Frankly, the only drugs that should be controlled are ones that turn you into a raving lunatic (PCP) and antibiotics. Nobody's come up with a convincing argument yet that the government has a right to tell a human being what he can and can't put in his own body (the only thing, by the way, that any person ever owns no matter what), or that prohibition does any damn good anyway.
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It's very psychologically attractive to a certain variety of person, but physically not much.Slartibartfast wrote: Don't know what perm effects LSD has though, or its degree of adiction.
Long-term, there don't seem to be any bad effects. There are TONS of myths about it (strychnyne in blotter, it stays in you forever, thinking you can fly) but nothing substantial.
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All the rest? Too long.
All the rest? Too long.
Not going to have much sucess in the US for that. The US uses puritan logic when it comes to drugs- it sees their abuse as some sort of 'moral' issue rather than a pure medical issue, which is how it's viewed in Europe (Australia takes the US puritan stand though).
"We can't legalize pot!"
"Why not!"
"Because if we do, people will smoke it!!!"
Puritan logic.
"We can't legalize pot!"
"Why not!"
"Because if we do, people will smoke it!!!"
Puritan logic.
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Well, more like a mix of puritanical + corporate logic.
But if anything, just for the sake of saving more lives.. make cigarettes illegal. Legalize Marijuana (much safer than cigarettes.. though with some restrictions on usage). Amphetamines, barbituates, hallucinagens, and such should of course still be regulated by at the very least the medical community.
But if anything, just for the sake of saving more lives.. make cigarettes illegal. Legalize Marijuana (much safer than cigarettes.. though with some restrictions on usage). Amphetamines, barbituates, hallucinagens, and such should of course still be regulated by at the very least the medical community.
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Re: What drugs should be legal?
My list:FireNexus wrote:*snip*
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I think it is a moral issue, fuck it with all the drugs, jesus christ whats wrong with people today?Vympel wrote:it sees their abuse as some sort of 'moral' issue rather than a pure medical issue, which is how it's viewed in Europe (Australia takes the US puritan stand though).
It just makes me fucking depressed at all the junkie fuckers in the world.
I tell you, if any people like that comes to this side of the world, I will fuck them up good.
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