A possible AIDS remedy

Setzer · Post by **Setzer** » 2003-05-04 01:42pm

Should AIDS infected people be rounded up under the pretext of a pre-cure quarantine, then all be executed? Would it benefit the human race as a whole if all these people were killed?

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-05-04 01:43pm

*twitch*

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2003-05-04 01:44pm

That is about the most moronic statement I have ever had the missfourtune to hear!

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2003-05-04 01:47pm

Nazism...

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-05-04 01:57pm

Should Setzer be banned under the pretext of reducing the amount of stupidity on SD.net? Would it benefit SD.net as a whole if he were gone?

Can't shrink smilies so I had to disable them for this post, :-)

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-05-04 02:37pm

Uh, I think that's about as low as it goes. There is actually a point when trying to save the species is just as bad as letting the threat carry on.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-05-04 02:43pm

Hall of Shame. NOW!

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-05-04 02:47pm

Setzer wrote:Should AIDS infected people be rounded up under the pretext of a pre-cure quarantine, then all be executed? Would it benefit the human race as a whole if all these people were killed?

More than likely, yes. But it would also be a benefit if we rounded up Christian fundamentalists and executed them, as well. Similarly, we could simply nuke the South and have a net positive effect. That doesn't mean we should do it.

This doesn't belong in the Hall of Shame ... yet.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-05-04 02:51pm

He's advocating murder of how many people? This is worse than the nazis. Not only is he suggesting an unneccesery step. (why kill them?) it is also stupid in that it wouldn't work. The idea that everyone could be rounded up is bullshit.

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2003-05-04 02:53pm

Is this the result of an account hijack?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-05-04 02:54pm

Setzer wrote:Should AIDS infected people be rounded up under the pretext of a pre-cure quarantine, then all be executed?

No.

Would it benefit the human race as a whole if all these people were killed?

Possibly you might get a net benefit to utility.

Of course it's also murdering a lot of people.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-05-04 03:00pm

Setzer wrote:Would it benefit the human race as a whole if all these people were killed?

Seeing as many of these people are productive members of society and many of those can contribute significant things (such as research, engineering, etc...), the Human race would not benefit as a whole.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-05-04 03:04pm

I smell a rat. A rat of the account-jacking variety.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-05-04 03:35pm

Setzer wrote:Should AIDS infected people be rounded up under the pretext of a pre-cure quarantine, then all be executed? Would it benefit the human race as a whole if all these people were killed?

nah. immoral, ineffecient, and uneconomic.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-05-04 03:38pm

Alyeska wrote:
Setzer wrote:Would it benefit the human race as a whole if all these people were killed?
Seeing as many of these people are productive members of society and many of those can contribute significant things (such as research, engineering, etc...), the Human race would not benefit as a whole.

Actually if you weight the costs of care over the potential benefit of the group as a whole, you might not get a net benefit.

Not saying it's right though.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-05-04 03:46pm

The horror...

Just in case it's an account hijack:

*changes passwr0d on his own account*

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-05-04 04:00pm

Provided you have the means to easily carry this out, it might work but that doesn't mean the AIDS virus can't somehow survive and go on.

After all, didn't it first originate in some monkeys? People might get it again even after the mass execution.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-05-04 04:02pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:The horror...

Just in case it's an account hijack:

*changes passwr0d on his own account*

suppose its time to change mine.

NapoleonGH · Post by **NapoleonGH** » 2003-05-04 04:26pm

i think this is a very interesting question. Certainly there is a great potential benefit to be gained by doing this. But then again we have reached a stage where modern medical care extends the lives of aids victims almost indefinitely (if they get proper treatment) so i say that killing them is overboard. Then again i do say that if someone who knows they have VD that is potentially fatal if untreated, has sex with someone without informing them of their VD that they should be tried with attempted murder as their crime.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-05-04 04:48pm

NecronLord wrote:This is worse than the nazis.

Worse? I dont' think its a good thing by any means, but there is a definate positive aspect to such a program. That, and by and large he is killing people for their bad habits, not for their heritage.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-05-04 04:56pm

It's certainly questionable ethics, but what if after culling those millions out there in Africa and the developed world, you find a cure a month later?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-05-04 04:58pm

Howedar wrote:
NecronLord wrote:This is worse than the nazis.
Worse? I dont' think its a good thing by any means, but there is a definate positive aspect to such a program.

The number of people needlessly killed is greater (even if you could do this, why must they be exceuted, they can live out their lives in a seperate country / large geographical area)

That, and by and large he is killing people for their bad habits, not for their heritage.

Bad habits? Sex is only a bad habit by that rotten claptrap Judeo-chrisitan-islamic religions call morality.

Also AIDS can be inherited.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-05-04 05:04pm

I was thinking more unprotected sex with people you don't know. My understanding was that inheriting AIDS was extremely rare.

Don't get me wrong, its a horrible thing, but to call it worse than the Holocaust is a stretch IMHO.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-05-04 05:10pm

Hereditry AIDS isn't that rare. (though is it really AIDS? Shouldn't it be called IIDS?)

Condemming people for their dodgy sex habits would be like saying the german Jews deserved it because they worship Jehovah and have questionably morality. It's not really credible.

Sorry but the numbers are what matter, and AFAIK there are more AIDS infected people than were killed by the Halocaust. And even if you could do this, you don't need to kill them to contain the infection.

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2003-05-04 05:14pm

Howedar wrote:I was thinking more unprotected sex with people you don't know. My understanding was that inheriting AIDS was extremely rare.

Don't get me wrong, its a horrible thing, but to call it worse than the Holocaust is a stretch IMHO.

Think you can get HIV even if you do know the one you are having sex with...

Don't know if this is true but I did read somwhere that the risk/odds of getting HIV through unprotected sex was something like 1 in 1000. And the risk in blood transusions is somehing like 80 in 100

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