German Republican Party Official to speak at ASU - need help

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-05-05 12:33pm

I'm scheduled to cover a speech by a German Republican Party official at ASU in just under an hour. I need all info you guys can provide me in that time. Sorry for the brevity of the message here, kids, but I'm rolling shortly and need as much info as you can lift for me.

Also need info on reports of German spies in the U.S. funneling info to Iraq just prior to the war. Thanks, guys.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-05-05 03:01pm

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:I'm scheduled to cover a speech by a German Republican Party official at ASU in just under an hour. I need all info you guys can provide me in that time. Sorry for the brevity of the message here, kids, but I'm rolling shortly and need as much info as you can lift for me.

Also need info on reports of German spies in the U.S. funneling info to Iraq just prior to the war. Thanks, guys.

Sorry buddy, but I don't know shit about German political connections with the US.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2003-05-05 03:08pm

Wish I could help, but just under an hour? No chance, I'm afraid. I'd give you the email address of a professor at my college who would be a perfect source of information, but I can't imagine he'd be able to get back to you in any detail in the timeframe you'd need.

Jawawithagun · Post by **Jawawithagun** » 2003-05-05 06:12pm

extreme right-wing neo-nazi party. http://www.rep.de/

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-05-05 09:09pm

Okay, I was going on incomplete information this morning. Turns out the guy that was speaking was a Dr. Ralf Bartsch, the Schatzmeister (the guy who watches all the schit) for the Christian Democratic Union, or CDU.

But here's the thing: Bartsch's speech was just a lot of kissee-kissee huggee-huggee "Oh, vee Chermunz LUV America!" crap. (Especially in light of a link I found here:

http://www.puk.org/web/htm/news/nws/news030421a.html

which supposedly details German Intelligence activities in support of Iraq just prior to the war.

But this guy isn't even the story; the real story here, I think, is the kid that gave me the assignment: "Kevin Riley". This guy creeps me out; I don't even know if that's his real name.

Okay, maybe you can think of a way that a guy who claims to be a 22 year old Junior-year student at ASU was able to organize a transatlantic flight for this Bartsch guy (maybe that part's easy) then get the mayors of three (yep, I counted: three) cities -- Tempe, Mesa and Chandler -- to show up for this (not as easy) as well as Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano -- but the Weird-Cake ain't done yet, kids. Add to this mixture of foreign national, low-level politicos, and state-level fatcat 15 of the Kriegsmarine's finest, and another 15 of from Ye Olde Luftwaffe. Definitely not easy to accomplish, especially for a college student. So... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-05-05 09:12pm

What exactly do you do for a living?

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-05-05 09:51pm

HemlockGrey wrote:What exactly do you do for a living?

Report oddities. And this event sure fit the bill.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-05-05 10:26pm

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Okay, I was going on incomplete information this morning. Turns out the guy that was speaking was a Dr. Ralf Bartsch, the Schatzmeister (the guy who watches all the schit) for the Christian Democratic Union, or CDU.

But here's the thing: Bartsch's speech was just a lot of kissee-kissee huggee-huggee "Oh, vee Chermunz LUV America!" crap. (Especially in light of a link I found here:

http://www.puk.org/web/htm/news/nws/news030421a.html

which supposedly details German Intelligence activities in support of Iraq just prior to the war.

What else could he say, after Germany committed the cardinal sin of failing to support America in the war and thus becoming a terrorist ally in the eyes of George Bush?

But this guy isn't even the story; the real story here, I think, is the kid that gave me the assignment: "Kevin Riley". This guy creeps me out; I don't even know if that's his real name.

Okay, maybe you can think of a way that a guy who claims to be a 22 year old Junior-year student at ASU was able to organize a transatlantic flight for this Bartsch guy (maybe that part's easy) then get the mayors of three (yep, I counted: three) cities -- Tempe, Mesa and Chandler -- to show up for this (not as easy) as well as Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano -- but the Weird-Cake ain't done yet, kids. Add to this mixture of foreign national, low-level politicos, and state-level fatcat 15 of the Kriegsmarine's finest, and another 15 of from Ye Olde Luftwaffe. Definitely not easy to accomplish, especially for a college student. So... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Rich, well-connected daddy?

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-05-06 12:46am

Darth Wong wrote:
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Okay, I was going on incomplete information this morning. Turns out the guy that was speaking was a Dr. Ralf Bartsch, the Schatzmeister (the guy who watches all the schit) for the Christian Democratic Union, or CDU.

But here's the thing: Bartsch's speech was just a lot of kissee-kissee huggee-huggee "Oh, vee Chermunz LUV America!" crap. (Especially in light of a link I found here:

http://www.puk.org/web/htm/news/nws/news030421a.html

which supposedly details German Intelligence activities in support of Iraq just prior to the war.
What else could he say, after Germany committed the cardinal sin of failing to support America in the war and thus becoming a terrorist ally in the eyes of George Bush?

True. But I think it also has to do with the tendency, after one has placed the wrong bet, to backpedal afterward. lol

But this guy isn't even the story; the real story here, I think, is the kid that gave me the assignment: "Kevin Riley". This guy creeps me out; I don't even know if that's his real name.

Okay, maybe you can think of a way that a guy who claims to be a 22 year old Junior-year student at ASU was able to organize a transatlantic flight for this Bartsch guy (maybe that part's easy) then get the mayors of three (yep, I counted: three) cities -- Tempe, Mesa and Chandler -- to show up for this (not as easy) as well as Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano -- but the Weird-Cake ain't done yet, kids. Add to this mixture of foreign national, low-level politicos, and state-level fatcat 15 of the Kriegsmarine's finest, and another 15 of from Ye Olde Luftwaffe. Definitely not easy to accomplish, especially for a college student. So... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Rich, well-connected daddy?[/quote]

That's a strong possibility. I've thought of that, but I can't see anyone that rich and that well-connected living here in Arizona, rather than in California or New York. But I'll admit that's just intuition, not logic.

Jawawithagun · Post by **Jawawithagun** » 2003-05-06 03:24am

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Okay, I was going on incomplete information this morning. Turns out the guy that was speaking was a Dr. Ralf Bartsch, the Schatzmeister (the guy who watches all the schit) for the Christian Democratic Union, or CDU.

Former Schatzmeister maybe, that I don't know. But the current one is Dr. Wolfgang Peiner.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-05-06 12:18pm

Jawawithagun wrote:
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Okay, I was going on incomplete information this morning. Turns out the guy that was speaking was a Dr. Ralf Bartsch, the Schatzmeister (the guy who watches all the schit) for the Christian Democratic Union, or CDU.
Former Schatzmeister maybe, that I don't know. But the current one is Dr. Wolfgang Peiner.

Wait a minute -- grrr. This is weird.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-05-06 03:28pm

Summon the Scooby Doo gang!

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-05-06 03:43pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Summon the Scooby Doo gang!

Indeed.

We have the rich college kid whose girlfriend thinks he's an active member of the German Army (which could be, right?) his pal Mr. Ralf Bartsch who claims to be the Schatzmeister of the Christian Democratic Union in Germany (and who, I'm now told, isn't)... somebody break out the pipe and Scooby Snacks. We're gonna have to bet baked to unravel this mystery, kids...

Or maybe I'm just not up to my game lately -- bad head cold, fucks with the logos, no?

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-05-06 04:06pm

Bartsch was the Schatzmeister during the Kohl era more than 5 years ago.
Oh and the Republican party (the political shame of Germany today) has no connections to the CDU.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-05-06 04:16pm

Cpt_Frank wrote:Bartsch was the Schatzmeister during the Kohl era more than 5 years ago.
Oh and the Republican party (the political shame of Germany today) has no connections to the CDU.

Well, obviously this Kevin Riley kid (who organized this whole deal) has been giving me conflicting and just plain wrong information.

Either this kid has Munchausen Syndrome and a daddy who's rich enough and well-connected enough to indulge some of the boy's less bizarre internal escapades, or there's a possibility something weird and bad might be going on.

Or it's possible I'm just paranoid when people lie to me about foreign nationals I've just met. Meh, *shrug* maybe that's just me.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-05-06 04:20pm

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote: Well, obviously this Kevin Riley kid (who organized this whole deal) has been giving me conflicting and just plain wrong information.

Either this kid has Munchausen Syndrome and a daddy who's rich enough and well-connected enough to indulge some of the boy's less bizarre internal escapades, or there's a possibility something weird and bad might be going on.

Or it's possible I'm just paranoid when people lie to me about foreign nationals I've just met. Meh, *shrug* maybe that's just me.

Well, almost all of those guys from the old Kohl-administration have ties with American buisinessmen, so I guess it was kind of a 'favor'.

The Question · Post by **The Question** » 2003-06-19 09:35pm

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:
Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 12:33 pm Post subject: German Republican Party Official to speak at ASU - need help

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I'm scheduled to cover a speech by a German Republican Party official at ASU in just under an hour. I need all info you guys can provide me in that time. Sorry for the brevity of the message here, kids, but I'm rolling shortly and need as much info as you can lift for me.

Also need info on reports of German spies in the U.S. funneling info to Iraq just prior to the war. Thanks, guys.
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Okay, I was going on incomplete information this morning. Turns out the guy that was speaking was a Dr. Ralf Bartsch, the Schatzmeister (the guy who watches all the schit) for the Christian Democratic Union, or CDU.

But here's the thing: Bartsch's speech was just a lot of kissee-kissee huggee-huggee "Oh, vee Chermunz LUV America!" crap. (Especially in light of a link I found here:

http://www.puk.org/web/htm/news/nws/news030421a.html

which supposedly details German Intelligence activities in support of Iraq just prior to the war.

But this guy isn't even the story; the real story here, I think, is the kid that gave me the assignment: "Kevin Riley". This guy creeps me out; I don't even know if that's his real name.

Okay, maybe you can think of a way that a guy who claims to be a 22 year old Junior-year student at ASU was able to organize a transatlantic flight for this Bartsch guy (maybe that part's easy) then get the mayors of three (yep, I counted: three) cities -- Tempe, Mesa and Chandler -- to show up for this (not as easy) as well as Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano -- but the Weird-Cake ain't done yet, kids. Add to this mixture of foreign national, low-level politicos, and state-level fatcat 15 of the Kriegsmarine's finest, and another 15 of from Ye Olde Luftwaffe. Definitely not easy to accomplish, especially for a college student. So... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

You're a lying sack of shit, Daniel.

Thanks to some sleuthing by your old buddy Tamar Garish, we discover this -

The governor's schedule for that day in question.

SCHEDULE FOR GOVERNOR NAPOLITANO

Week of May 5-9, 2003

Monday, May 5, 2003

9:30-9:45 a.m. Governor to speak at DPS Peace Officers Memorial

DPS Headquarters, 2102 West Encanto Boulevard, Phoenix

5:30¡-6:30 p.m. Governor to speak at the grand opening of the Grant Park Boxing Gym

Grant Park Boxing Gym, 217 West Sherman, Phoenix

7:00-8:00 p.m. Governor to speak at statewide Peace Officers Memorial

Wesley Bolin Plaza, State Capitol

Here's the link in case anyone doubts it.

http://www.governor.state.az.us/press/0305/03_05_02.htm

Not a mention on the governor's website, not a single photo despite the photo op, and despite other pics from photo ops that day.

Not a single word.

Hmmmmm.

"Professional liar" indeed.

Flatulent fraud, Daniel. That's all you are.

So where's the coverage?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-06-19 09:49pm

I find it fascinating that you people are so obsessed with him that you run around tracking down shit like this. Of course, it might have simply been an unscheduled appearance (those do happen), but why pass up an opportunity to troll and bash people, eh?

We don't allow your fucking chickenshit vendettas here, and you were made aware of that. If you don't like the rules here, you shouldn't have joined up.

PS. Tell QTG that she's obviously in love with RDJ, and she should just admit it. Why else would she be carefully poring through month-old posts and researching background trivia on their details? Who the fuck even has time for something like that? She's obviously trying to figure out where he's been and whether she can get into his pants. She wants him.

The Question · Post by **The Question** » 2003-06-19 09:52pm

So it doesn't bother you Daniel's a compulsive liar, lying to your very face?

Lonestar · Post by **Lonestar** » 2003-06-19 09:54pm

The Question wrote:So it doesn't bother you Daniel's a compulsive liar, lying to your very face?

:: gets marshmellows, hersey bars, and graham crackers ::

Prince-Admiral Krennel · Post by **Prince-Admiral Krennel** » 2003-06-19 09:57pm

The Question wrote:So it doesn't bother you Daniel's a compulsive liar, lying to your very face?

Did it ever occur to you that maybe nobody cares? It's a fucking message board for crying out loud.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-06-19 09:59pm

The Question wrote:So it doesn't bother you Daniel's a compulsive liar, lying to your very face?

Perhaps you didn't read my message thoroughly. That seems to be a compulsive habit of yours. Read it again.

Prince-Admiral Krennel · Post by **Prince-Admiral Krennel** » 2003-06-19 09:59pm

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote:What exactly do you do for a living?
Report oddities. And this event sure fit the bill.

So you make your living working for a guy that you don't even know? Your not that guy that reports for the black and white paper that keeps saying aliens are in our brains are you?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-06-19 10:15pm

Holy shit, not only is QTG an idiot, she's a freakin' stalker. You all have very serious problems.

The Question · Post by **The Question** » 2003-06-19 10:26pm

Darth Wong wrote:
The Question wrote:So it doesn't bother you Daniel's a compulsive liar, lying to your very face?

Perhaps you didn't read my message thoroughly. That seems to be a compulsive habit of yours. Read it again.

That "she may have made an unscheduled visit" line doesn't wash.

Three mayors, a high level German politician and the governor come to ASU, and there's no mention of it on ASU's website, or the governor's anywhere? Not in the ASU student paper. Nada. Nothing. Zip.

Are you interested in blind loyalty, or truth?

Where's the logic in that?

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