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UFP Minister of Propaganda
Posted: 2003-06-04 08:47pm
by Enola Straight
If we accept that the socio/political/economic system of the United Federation of Planets is a quasi/neo/pseudo-socialist regime and thus require a Minister of Propaganda to spoon-feed the masses the daily dose of government doctrine, who is he?
Posted: 2003-06-04 08:58pm
by TheDarkling
I very much doubt that is a propaganda minister beyond that which you seem in modern western governments (spin doctors etc), although the editor of the Federation news service probably has a lot of power.
Posted: 2003-06-04 09:31pm
by Darth Wong
TheDarkling wrote:I very much doubt that is a propaganda minister beyond that which you seem in modern western governments (spin doctors etc), although the editor of the Federation news service probably has a lot of power.
The fact that there
is a single Federation news service implies that there is indeed a propaganda ministry.
Posted: 2003-06-04 09:52pm
by Sea Skimmer
Darth Wong wrote:TheDarkling wrote:I very much doubt that is a propaganda minister beyond that which you seem in modern western governments (spin doctors etc), although the editor of the Federation news service probably has a lot of power.
The fact that there
is a single Federation news service implies that there is indeed a propaganda ministry.
As I recall one of the TOS movies shows cameramen with the names for three different new services. However that’s TOS. Much as changed by the time of TNG.
Posted: 2003-06-04 09:58pm
by TheDarkling
Sea Skimmer wrote:Darth Wong wrote:TheDarkling wrote:I very much doubt that is a propaganda minister beyond that which you seem in modern western governments (spin doctors etc), although the editor of the Federation news service probably has a lot of power.
The fact that there
is a single Federation news service implies that there is indeed a propaganda ministry.
As I recall one of the TOS movies shows cameramen with the names for three different new services. However that’s TOS. Much as changed by the time of TNG.
By the time of DS9 Jake Sisko works for the "Federation News Service", now there may be other news services but I somewhat doubt it.
Posted: 2003-06-04 10:57pm
by Uraniun235
No, see, in the Federation, everyone's so trusting that they believe what the politicians tell them, so there's no need for a seperate Dept. of Lies.
Posted: 2003-06-04 11:13pm
by Burak Gazan
geez, if the humans in the Federation are that stupid, they must have been putting something in the water!
Posted: 2003-06-05 03:16am
by Xon
Burak Gazan wrote:
geez, if the humans in the Federation are that stupid, they must have been putting something in the water!
Actually, that wouldnt work.
It would have to be genetic, probable the result of some nasty virus which was cooked up to minimze intelligence and increase a persons desire to follow.
And it looks to have been effective against most of the Startrek Galaxy too.
Re: UFP Minister of Propaganda
Posted: 2003-06-05 04:11am
by Jason von Evil
Enola Straight wrote:If we accept that the socio/political/economic system of the United Federation of Planets is a quasi/neo/pseudo-socialist regime and thus require a Minister of Propaganda to spoon-feed the masses the daily dose of government doctrine, who is he?
Baghdad Bobs descendent.

Posted: 2003-06-05 05:00am
by CJvR
ggs wrote:
It would have to be genetic, probable the result of some nasty virus which was cooked up to minimze intelligence and increase a persons desire to follow.
Perhaps somone added a nasty little sub-routine to the transporter protocols.
Posted: 2003-06-05 07:19am
by Solauren
Hey, this makes me wonder something...
What if someone found out these proposed control methods were REAL, and found a way to counter them all at once and take over all the "air waves" to broadcast it over the Federation.
Now THAT would make for a good show set after Voyager
Posted: 2003-06-05 07:22am
by Gandalf
Well if there's no money, why bother making a media company?
Sea Skimmer: The movie you speak of is Generations.
Posted: 2003-06-05 02:42pm
by NecronLord
Gandalf wrote:The movie you speak of is Generations.
Speak not its name here!
Posted: 2003-06-06 05:02am
by Gandalf
NecronLord wrote:Gandalf wrote:The movie you speak of is Generations.
Speak not its name here!
Sorry.
I shall now go to my room to repent, 20 Hail Wongs.
Posted: 2003-06-07 12:59pm
by Admiral Johnason
Sea Skimmer wrote:Darth Wong wrote:TheDarkling wrote:I very much doubt that is a propaganda minister beyond that which you seem in modern western governments (spin doctors etc), although the editor of the Federation news service probably has a lot of power.
The fact that there
is a single Federation news service implies that there is indeed a propaganda ministry.
As I recall one of the TOS movies shows cameramen with the names for three different new services. However that’s TOS. Much as changed by the time of TNG.
I wonder how many time the Federation has to get its ass kicked before it realizes that Marxism doesn't worrk and that they have just been really, really lucky? God I miss kirk's Federation.
Posted: 2003-06-08 08:53pm
by DarthBlight
Probably when someone blows Earth to Kingdom Come, devestating the Federation's infrastructure so much that the whole thing fragments and they all go their own separate ways.
Posted: 2003-06-08 09:39pm
by Admiral Johnason
Then get me a hand blaster, two stormie squads, and a space shuttle with a hyperdrive and sheilds and let's get started.