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What will happen to professor Moriarti?

Posted: 2003-06-21 05:33pm
by BlkbrryTheGreat
Will Moriarti ever know he is in a "matrix", will he ever escape from it?

Posted: 2003-06-21 05:34pm
by Crazedwraith
What u mean the box they put him in??
As far as i know he was never heard of again.
According to the star trek encyclopedia he was only in two episodes "elementry Dear Data" and "ship in a bottle"

Posted: 2003-06-21 05:36pm
by Montcalm
And there is enough virtual worlds to keep him busy forever. 8)

Posted: 2003-06-21 05:43pm
by HappyTarget
IIRC didn't Moriarti WILLINGLY go into the computer box?

Posted: 2003-06-21 05:46pm
by BlkbrryTheGreat
HappyTarget wrote:IIRC didn't Moriarti WILLINGLY go into the computer box?
No, they tricked him into thinking that they were making him real through the magic of treknobable.

Posted: 2003-06-21 06:05pm
by Admiral Johnason
Removed because I just realized I missed something.

Posted: 2003-06-21 06:07pm
by Natorgator
BlkbrryTheGreat wrote: No, they tricked him into thinking that they were making him real through the magic of treknobable.
Yep, he pretty much thought that he was real since he "stepped out" onto the real Enterprise which wasn't really the Enterprise, and then they "gave" him a shuttlecraft to go where he pleased with his wife.

But what I can't remember is was the computer program left running in the E-D computer core, or was it actually a small portable box? If it was left running in the Enterprise, I'd imagine that he would've died when the ship was destroyed.

Posted: 2003-06-21 06:37pm
by HappyTarget
No, he was definately in a computer box.

Just wasn't sure weather he entered willingly or was tricked

Posted: 2003-06-21 07:58pm
by neoolong
Unless they decide to hook up that little box to another computer, I doubt he would be able to escape. It's like a virus can't escape a computer unless you supply a medium for it to.

Posted: 2003-06-21 09:24pm
by Equinox2003
I always thought he was wiped out along with the Enterprise D,
since he was part of the Holo programs they had on that ship.

Posted: 2003-06-21 09:28pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Equinox2003 wrote:I always thought he was wiped out along with the Enterprise D,
since he was part of the Holo programs they had on that ship.
Except that he and his wife (?) were in a seperate box that wasn't part of the main computer. It was a self contained unit.

Posted: 2003-06-21 09:44pm
by Montcalm
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Equinox2003 wrote:I always thought he was wiped out along with the Enterprise D,
since he was part of the Holo programs they had on that ship.
Except that he and his wife (?) were in a seperate box that wasn't part of the main computer. It was a self contained unit.
And whoever picked it up when the salvage crew got on what was left of E-D may not know whats in.

Posted: 2003-06-21 09:53pm
by neoolong
Montcalm wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Equinox2003 wrote:I always thought he was wiped out along with the Enterprise D,
since he was part of the Holo programs they had on that ship.
Except that he and his wife (?) were in a seperate box that wasn't part of the main computer. It was a self contained unit.
And whoever picked it up when the salvage crew got on what was left of E-D may not know whats in.
I would think that Picard would have logged it when they did it. And that nobody would just randomly access stuff without first knowing what's in it.

Posted: 2003-06-22 02:12am
by Gandalf
Montcalm wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Equinox2003 wrote:I always thought he was wiped out along with the Enterprise D,
since he was part of the Holo programs they had on that ship.
Except that he and his wife (?) were in a seperate box that wasn't part of the main computer. It was a self contained unit.
And whoever picked it up when the salvage crew got on what was left of E-D may not know whats in.
I think you see that prop when Picard os going through the wreckage looking for his family album.

Posted: 2003-06-22 04:46pm
by DarthBlight
I always think that eventually, Moriarty will hit a wall or something in that box and sit there going "What the . . ." for a few minutes before realizing Picard got the better of him. :lol:

Posted: 2003-06-22 09:13pm
by Solauren
I honestly don't think he'd give a rat's ass.

He has what he wants, freedom. Sure, it's "Matrix Freedom", but it's still freedom.

either that, or he'd find a way to alter the program so he and his wife live forever, and then finds a way to get out into a computer, build mobile emitors, and go "nah nah nah nah" to Pichard.

And then get arrested for hijacking a Federation ship and kidnapping officers...

Posted: 2003-06-23 01:49am
by Vympel
There was another Moriarty episode?

Posted: 2003-06-23 01:59am
by Gandalf
Vympel wrote:There was another Moriarty episode?
Only "Elementary Dear Data" and "Ship in a Bottle".

Posted: 2003-06-23 02:22am
by Vympel
Ah see I've never seen Ship in a Bottle, only Elementary my Dear Data.

Posted: 2003-06-23 12:30pm
by Enola Straight
I would believe Moriarty's Box would be sent to Dr. Zimmerman for study in his program for creating EMHs...hey, a criminal sentient hologram is better to study than starting from scratch.

Posted: 2003-06-26 02:33am
by Uraniun235
Who says they kept it on the Enterprise? Surely some people would want to study the whole "artificial sentient being out of nowhere" thing that Moriarty is... hell, that may very well be where Starfleet got the EMH and what-not.

Posted: 2003-06-26 07:55am
by Isolder74
Uraniun235 wrote:Who says they kept it on the Enterprise? Surely some people would want to study the whole "artificial sentient being out of nowhere" thing that Moriarty is... hell, that may very well be where Starfleet got the EMH and what-not.
We have no idea what happened to him. His box for all we know is still sitting on the desk of Captian Picard in the left over reckage!

Posted: 2003-06-26 09:23am
by MrAnderson
Enola Straight wrote:I would believe Moriarty's Box would be sent to Dr. Zimmerman for study in his program for creating EMHs...hey, a criminal sentient hologram is better to study than starting from scratch.

This sounds like the most likely explanation so far. Though of course the safest and smartest explanation would be to take that black box and phaser it into nothing just to be on the safe side.

But then when did ST ever do anything that was on the safe side.

Posted: 2003-06-26 02:17pm
by GrandMasterTerwynn
neoolong wrote:
Montcalm wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote: Except that he and his wife (?) were in a seperate box that wasn't part of the main computer. It was a self contained unit.
And whoever picked it up when the salvage crew got on what was left of E-D may not know whats in.
I would think that Picard would have logged it when they did it. And that nobody would just randomly access stuff without first knowing what's in it.
*cough* This is Trek we're talking about here . . . the same yahoos who willingly upload and execute strange code onto their computers, in spite of seeing the nasty effects it had on other ships (i.e. the Yamato or one of the 234343 bizarre artifacts they routinely pick up and plug in.)

Posted: 2003-06-26 02:51pm
by neoolong
Maybe they learned from their mistakes?

Ok. That sounds implausible even to me.