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In "Shockwave, Part 2" (Don't worry, I saw it on DivX, no way I'm supporting B&B through ratings) there's a scene after T'Pol's been interrogated by the Taliban -- err, Suliban -- and she's laying on her bed. Archer uses some kind of jury-rigged temporal communicator to try to contact her from the 31st century.

Weird part is the close-up of T'Pol's face -- Okay, so that's always a little weird and scary, but this is weirder than usual. In the close-up of T'Pol's face, she actually appears to have Vulcan eyebrows! But as soon as she gets up off the bed, they're human eyebrows again, same as always!

?!

The show sucks ass. We've gathered that by now.

maybe it is just an optical illusion. like bending a wooden pencil trick.

HemlockGrey wrote:The show sucks ass. We've gathered that by now.

'Course we have -- now it's just down to extracting the unintended entertainment from it. Watching Enterprise is sort of like pointing and laughing at the circus freaks -- it's mean-spirited and shallow, but everybody gets the urge to do it now and then.

I've concluded the following about the Enterprise crew:

T'Pol is in fact a T-1000, sent back in time by Skynet-er, the Borg to stop John Conner-er, John ARCHER from forming the Resist-Federation. The eyebrow is just it morphing.

Reed is a T-800, sent back in time to save John. Compare the reaction of when Arnie finds a minigun to when Reed finds torpedoes. I'm sure in the third season he will be phasered in the face, revealing a GLOWING RED EYE.

Archer is in fact DR. BECKETT, traveling through time.

Mayweather is just a cardboard cutout, because that's the amount of screentime he gets.

Dr. Phlox is Neelix in disguise. In Voyager, he murdered people by poisoning them with his "food." Now he murders people with his "medicine" primarily by leaving Regulan Bloodworms inside people.

Ensign Sato is the first SPUT (Self Propelled Universal Translator) because that's the screentime she gets. Is it a coincidence that her and Mayweather, the two minorities in the cast are the lowest ranking (ensign) and get the least screentime? Dum dum dum....

Commander Tucker is a poor normal engineer, stuck on the Voyage of the Damned.

A few minor corrections and revelations:

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:I've concluded the following about the Enterprise crew:

T'Pol is in fact a T-1000, sent back in time by Skynet-er, the Borg to stop John Conner-er, John ARCHER from forming the Resist-Federation. The eyebrow is just it morphing.

Reed is a T-800, sent back in time to save John. Compare the reaction of when Arnie finds a minigun to when Reed finds torpedoes. I'm sure in the third season he will be phasered in the face, revealing a GLOWING RED EYE.

T800, Model 69. Yeah, baby, yeah!

Archer is in fact DR. BECKETT, traveling through time.

He's also John Connor's hapless cousin.

Mayweather is just a cardboard cutout, because that's the amount of screentime he gets.

Mayweather is actually Miles Bennett Dyson, doing pennance for his contributions to the Skynet Project by spending his life trapped inside a simple-minded, Pollyanna-inspired version of the Matrix.

Dr. Phlox is Neelix in disguise. In Voyager, he murdered people by poisoning them with his "food." Now he murders people with his "medicine" primarily by leaving Regulan Bloodworms inside people.

Phlox is actually the fourth member of the cast of The Lone Gunmen. We never saw him on that show because Frohike, Langley and Byers were always kicking his ass and stuffing dirty socks up his nose.

Ensign Sato is the first SPUT (Self Propelled Universal Translator) because that's the screentime she gets.

Ensign Sato was originally supposed to be the Captain, until Captain Beckett and the T'Pol1000 blackmailed her with constant toplessness unless she agreed to let them have the really swanky quarters.

Is it a coincidence that her and Mayweather, the two minorities in the cast are the lowest ranking (ensign) and get the least screentime? Dum dum dum....

Actually, the producers are doing Linda Park and Anthony Montgomery a favor by giving them minimal screen time. (No, I wasn't on that show. What? He looks like me? What are you trying to say, huh?)

Commander Tucker is a poor normal engineer, stuck on the Voyage of the Damned.

Tucker engineered the whole despicable situation for his own nefarious ends. When the Enterprise is destroyed by angry Starfleet personnel from an alternate 23rd century, the resulting technobabble explosion will ripple throughout time, and The Saowth Shall Raaaaaaahhzz Agin! Or something.

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Is it a coincidence that her and Mayweather, the two minorities in the cast are the lowest ranking (ensign) and get the least screentime? Dum dum dum....

I agree with everything else, but I do think its a coincidence, or just poor writing. I don't think B&B are intelligent enough to be successfully racist.

Ah. Tucker is working with the temporal cold war aliens, to wipe out the North from history, so that The South shall rise again!

Howedar wrote:

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Is it a coincidence that her and Mayweather, the two minorities in the cast are the lowest ranking (ensign) and get the least screentime? Dum dum dum....

I agree with everything else, but I do think its a coincidence, or just poor writing. I don't think B&B are intelligent enough to be successfully racist.

I didn't seriously believe they were rascist, but several things are very...interesting. Like as soon as Mayweather was cast as black, his rank dropped. And during a comercial advertising all the previous captains, Sisko disappeared.

This is the stuff X-File episodes are made out of man!

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:

Howedar wrote:

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Is it a coincidence that her and Mayweather, the two minorities in the cast are the lowest ranking (ensign) and get the least screentime? Dum dum dum....

I agree with everything else, but I do think its a coincidence, or just poor writing. I don't think B&B are intelligent enough to be successfully racist.

I didn't seriously believe they were rascist, but several things are very...interesting. Like as soon as Mayweather was cast as black, his rank dropped. And during a comercial advertising all the previous captains, Sisko disappeared.

This is the stuff X-File episodes are made out of man!

I think we need a conspiracy theory forum -- The Lone Gunmen. Yeah. Or not.

just checked my DivX of that episode and I didn't notice anything bizzarre about her eyebrows.

Besides it would be somewhat odd that she would have Vulcan eyebrows put on for just that one shot, when she ordinarily doesn't have them at all.

i never realized that T'whore has human eyebrows. Whenever they showed her face, I was too busy trying to put the goggles on as fast as possible.

Sir Sirius wrote:just checked my DivX of that episode and I didn't notice anything bizzarre about her eyebrows.

Besides it would be somewhat odd that she would have Vulcan eyebrows put on for just that one shot, when she ordinarily doesn't have them at all.

It's the scene right after she stumbles into her quarters after Silik interrogated her. She's lying on her side on the bed, with the lights illuminating the right side of her face. Her right eyebrow is a Vulcan eyebrow in that scene, but only in that scene. The upswept part of her eyebrow, by the way, is fairly light hair, so it's probably easy to miss.

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote: T'Pol is in fact a T-1000, sent back in time by Skynet-er, the Borg to stop John Conner-er, John ARCHER from forming the Resist-Federation. The eyebrow is just it morphing.

Actually, she is a T-X, but the sexappeal programing got fried when she went through time.

If they started writing Archers parts as Becketts I would watch the show. I know! Captain ARCHER can go into the PAST to stop the suliban, and the hologram man looking a lot like Al Calivici can follow him around with a little rubiks cube tricorder!

I stopped watching Star Trek about halfway through Voyager and now happily live in a fantasy universe where William Shatner's novels and the Rihannsu series are real and Enterprise is just a drunken binge by B&B.

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:In "Shockwave, Part 2" (Don't worry, I saw it on DivX, no way I'm supporting B&B through ratings) there's a scene after T'Pol's been interrogated by the Taliban -- err, Suliban -- and she's laying on her bed. Archer uses some kind of jury-rigged temporal communicator to try to contact her from the 31st century.

Weird part is the close-up of T'Pol's face -- Okay, so that's always a little weird and scary, but this is weirder than usual. In the close-up of T'Pol's face, she actually appears to have Vulcan eyebrows! But as soon as she gets up off the bed, they're human eyebrows again, same as always!

?!

Probably just a makeup error.

YT300000 wrote:i never realized that T'whore has human eyebrows. Whenever they showed her face, I was too busy trying to put the goggles on as fast as possible.

You and Johnason really don't like her face

I'll admit it: I'm usually too busy gawking at her body to notice anything else about her appearance. It's incredible, fake tits or not. (I've been single for awhile now and I'm not getting younger. I'm not inclined to refuse a date with someone because they have implants.)

And I rather like her face, without the 2" long hair anyway. She could probably fatten up just a tick, but that's okay.

Do you guys not like her looks because you geniunely, really are turned off, or is it partly a matter of not going along mindlessly with the "majority"?

I ask because I'm somewhat the same way with Julia Roberts and other movie stars. People just kiss their asses and rave so much about their looks, I judge Julia as much by those comments as I do on the merits of her own body/face.

Same said for Kate Hudson and even Gwyneth Paltrow to an extent (who's not as cute as her mom used to be, but IS a real pretty girl, I admit). I get sick of the talk of how "gorgeous" and "sexy" they are; watch "Entertainment Tonight" anytime, and I'm sure they'll kiss at least one of those girls' asses gratuituously. One begins to dislike those people for things they didn't even do.

kojikun wrote:If they started writing Archers parts as Becketts I would watch the show. I know! Captain ARCHER can go into the PAST to stop the suliban, and the hologram man looking a lot like Al Calivici can follow him around with a little rubiks cube tricorder!

I think they should. I really think they should -- just once -- enact a conspiracy on the set whereby we have a scene between Archer and T'Pol... and in the background, a man in a loud suit is smacking a tricorder, which bleats like a little animal every time he thwacks it.

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:It's the scene right after she stumbles into her quarters after Silik interrogated her. She's lying on her side on the bed, with the lights illuminating the right side of her face. Her right eyebrow is a Vulcan eyebrow in that scene, but only in that scene. The upswept part of her eyebrow, by the way, is fairly light hair, so it's probably easy to miss.

Still can't see it.

There are three scenes in which she is lying down on her side.

1. Immediatly after the Suliban throw her on her bed. She is lying on her right side with the light illuminating the left side of her face. I can't see anything odd with her eyebrows in this scene.
2. After she's been to the bathroom and while Archer is trying to contact her. She is lying on her left side with the light illuminating the right side of her face. I can't see anything odd with her eyebrows in this scene either.
3. During her conversation with Archers head she rolls on her left side for a moment, with the light illuminating her right side. I can't see anything odd with her eyebrows in this scene either.

Mostlikely you are seeing some form of an optical illusion, reflection on her forehead, or something like that. For the scene to truly appear as you describe it they would have to have done it on purpose, which make no sense.

E.g. they would have done something like this:
- She has ordinary eyebrows as the suliban bring her in.
- The Vulcan right eyebrow is added (even though she never uses Vulcan eyebrows) and a single scene of her lying on her side is shot.
- The Vulcan eyebrow is removed and rest of the scenes taking place in her room are shot.

That does not sound like a believeable misstake and I can't imagine why they would do something like that on purpose.

Right, then -- either I mistook what I saw (and I don't think I did) or nobody else is catching it. *shrug* Is there a way to capture a still image from Windows Media Player?

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Right, then -- either I mistook what I saw (and I don't think I did) or nobody else is catching it. *shrug* Is there a way to capture a still image from Windows Media Player?

Click pause, hit 'Print screen', paste to Paint (or some other similar program) and save the image. Crude, but works.

Sir Sirius wrote:

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Right, then -- either I mistook what I saw (and I don't think I did) or nobody else is catching it. *shrug* Is there a way to capture a still image from Windows Media Player?

Click pause, hit 'Print screen', paste to Paint (or some other similar program) and save the image. Crude, but works.

Okay, give me a little time to find the scene and save the imageto Yahoo, and I'll post it here so you can see what I'm talking about.

seanrobertson wrote:Do you guys not like her looks because you geniunely, really are turned off, or is it partly a matter of not going along mindlessly with the "majority"?

Well, as a TrekBBSer said, she looks like someone beat her up, and starved her for a week.

Alterations required for T'Pol to be attractive:
1. Say she's not a Vulcan. She doesn't act the least bit like one.
2. Get rid of the lipstick. Pink. Uuk.
3. Grow some hair.
4. Put her internal organs back in her body. There is no other way to explain her extreme anorexia.
5. Stop wearing catsuits. Wear normal clothes.
6. Don't brag about how the actor is a whore.
7. Magically turn those implants into real breasts.

Thats about it.

Okay, this is the first time I've done a screen cap, so it's probably not the best, and for some reason I can't get WiMP to capitulate and Print the entire image it's displaying (it crops the edges for some reason I can't fucking figure out) but this should do.

Click to see The Amazing T'Pol Eyebrow Trick!

For those of you who saw it already, you know what I'm talking about. For those who haven't -- sorry; Yahoo is saying my site has exceeded its daily transfer limit. Personally, I think their server gagged at the site of T'Skank.