The Imperium of Man vs. the Systems Commonwealth

Antediluvian · Post by **Antediluvian** » 2002-09-24 09:26am

For the purposes of the debate, neither side is being harassed by their traditional enemies, thus allowing them to concentrate their full military might on each other.

Discuss, please.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2002-09-24 03:01pm

Well the Imperium won't be able to catch a high-guard ship... on the other hand they have lots of nice, stationary planets just asking to catch a barrage of virus bombs

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-09-24 03:29pm

The Commonwealth is fucked thirteen ways to sunday if the Imperium can field all it's might. If not, then not.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-09-24 03:41pm

Imperium has no enemies and so has time to dig up all it's lost tech.

This is some sort of sodomy isn't it?

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-09-24 03:43pm

This is some sort of sodomy isn't it?

No, it's fun.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-09-24 03:57pm

not for the commonwealth

greenmm · Post by **greenmm** » 2002-09-24 04:54pm

Speed goes to the Commonwealth (given that their Slipstream drives apparantly make travel to other galaxies somewhat easy).

However, I think firepower, ship strength, and overall weapons tech goes to the 4th Imperium.

And again, I think the Slipstream drives have the same problem of having minimum distances from star-sized masses that plague most FTL drive systems, which means they'll have trouble fleeing an Enchanach Drive-equipped planetoid.

So... I see the Commonwealth either being steamrolled slowly by the Imperium, or reduced to shoot-and-scoot tactics to try and stop the Imperium.

Renewed_Valour1 · Post by **Renewed_Valour1** » 2002-09-24 04:58pm

Uhm hope/pray someone in the Commonwealth is as sick minded as Harper and builds a nova bomb bigger than Roseanne.

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-09-24 05:12pm

However, I think firepower, ship strength, and overall weapons tech goes to the 4th Imperium.

the commonwealth has the same disadvantages facing the imperium as they does the empire of SW, both enemy states has larger fleets of much heavier starships, though here it's speed advantage is even greater both faces a even larger numerial inbalance.

the GHC is after all one of their largest starships yet both the impstar and the much larger lunar dwarf it, and they are simple medium cruisers in the fleets of the 2 empires.

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-09-24 05:14pm

I meant greater then both,

and I am comparing the sizes of the common cruisers of the commonwealth, the imperium and the galactic empire.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2002-09-24 05:35pm

Green we're talking the Imperium of Man from Warhammer 40,000 not the 4th Imperium (who wouldn't need to catch a high-guard ship thanks to the ol' hyper-missiles).

As for the Imperium.. Virus bombs and cyclotronic torpedoes abound

SWPIGWANG · Post by **SWPIGWANG** » 2002-09-24 08:39pm

So what happens that no planets are left in 3 galaxies, because people just BDZ planets and nova everything in sight.

But warp travel sux and the Iom can't even get to SC anyway. SC wins unless the emperor becomes god or something.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2002-09-24 10:16pm

Or rather the Andromeda folks go into the IoM territory and never return.

And since the Chaos Gods have apperantly gone quiet and the warp isn't in upheaval that we know the IoM should have a dandy time smashing the Commonwealth. The Imperial Guard alone is going to eat them alive, and that's not counting stuff like the space marines.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-09-25 07:23am

If you remove the Deamons from warp space, then the Warp of the imperium is actually very fast. In this situation they would be able to cross their galaxy in at most a day.