Crop Swastika

beyond hope · Post by **beyond hope** » 2003-09-15 05:51pm

Mon September 15, 2003 10:36 AM ET
BERLIN (Reuters) - German police discovered a giant swastika trampled into a cornfield near Berlin but have not been able to figure out how the banned Nazi emblem got there, a spokeswoman said Monday.
A police team discovered the 230-foot Nazi cross on a routine helicopter flight earlier this month and alerted their colleagues on the ground.

"Once the police on the ground recognized the shape from video footage they consulted the farmer and trampled around the swastika until it was unrecognizable," said a police spokeswoman in Koenigs Wusterhausen, in the eastern state of Brandenburg.

Those displaying Nazi symbols or using the stiff-armed Hitler salute can face up to three years in prison in Germany.

There were no indications so far who was responsible or how they had entered the field so as only to leave traces along the lines of the swastika and none around it.

Brandenburg is part of the formerly communist east, where racist attacks are more common than in the west.

The hooks on the cross actually pointed in the opposite direction to those on the swastika used by Adolf Hitler's Nazi party but it was still being treated as an illegal symbol.

Last week, officials said the threat of neo-Nazi violence was escalating in Germany after police seized explosives and arrested several people suspected of planning an anti-Jewish bomb attack in Munich. Neo-Nazis from Brandenburg were among those arrested, German media said.

Obviously there's a neo-nazi contingent amongst the Grey Aliens.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2003-09-15 06:02pm

If the crosses on the ends were pointed in the wrong directions, then isn't it supposed to be a Hindu sun symbol, and a blessing?

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2003-09-15 06:06pm

LadyTevar wrote:If the crosses on the ends were pointed in the wrong directions, then isn't it supposed to be a Hindu sun symbol, and a blessing?

Well, it is still considered illegal here

Symbols that can be mistaken for Nazi symbols, are illegal.

Worlds Spanner · Post by **Worlds Spanner** » 2003-09-15 06:07pm

LadyTevar wrote:If the crosses on the ends were pointed in the wrong directions, then isn't it supposed to be a Hindu sun symbol, and a blessing?

Quite right.

Demiurge · Post by **Demiurge** » 2003-09-15 06:12pm

The last thing the world needs is an invasion of Nazi aliens.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2003-09-15 06:13pm

Worlds Spanner wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:If the crosses on the ends were pointed in the wrong directions, then isn't it supposed to be a Hindu sun symbol, and a blessing?
Quite right.

Well well.. amazing what TV can teach you. I learned that from an old TV show about a reporter that kept running into X-files-type monsters... about 20 yrs before the Xfiles premiered

Dahak: I honestly can understand why German doesn't want any connection to the Nazi Party. It's a past I'm sure many Germans would prefer buried.

beyond hope · Post by **beyond hope** » 2003-09-15 06:46pm

Demiurge wrote:The last thing the world needs is an invasion of Nazi aliens.

"Space Nazis Must Die"?

EmperorChrostas the Cruel · Post by **EmperorChrostas the Cruel** » 2003-09-15 07:04pm

Kolchak, the night stalker vs the Rakshasa!
Kolchak was the ORIGINAL X filer!
Demons, Zombies, ETs, Vampires, you name it, he fought them, not out of choice, but survival.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-09-15 11:56pm

EmperorChrostas the Cruel wrote:Kolchak, the night stalker vs the Rakshasa!
Kolchak was the ORIGINAL X filer!
Demons, Zombies, ETs, Vampires, you name it, he fought them, not out of choice, but survival.

That's why Gavin McCloud had a recurring character on the X-Files.

And the version of the swastika the nazis used was very much a good luck symbol in the western world, though perhaps not the "blessing" of the Tibetan version. It was called the "lucky cross", and was used in advertising everything from citrus fruit from California to Coca-Cola.

There's an Art-Deco building in Wichita, KS. that has very prominant swastika tiles, and they're all the "nazi" version. It dates from the late 20s, IIRC. My one first hand account with this little tidbit o' trivia.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-09-16 11:19am

Dahak wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:If the crosses on the ends were pointed in the wrong directions, then isn't it supposed to be a Hindu sun symbol, and a blessing?
Well, it is still considered illegal here
Symbols that can be mistaken for Nazi symbols, are illegal.

But if that's the case, then why the heck does the Luftwaffe still display the Iron Cross??

Demiurge wrote:The last thing the world needs is an invasion of Nazi aliens.

I once compiled a list of space alien archetypes in sci-fi along with other forumers. Funnily enough, one of the archetypes were the Space Nazis. Examples include the Taiidani (Homeworld), the Tau (Warhammer 40K), the Dominion (DS9), the Officians (Rocky Jones: Space Ranger) and others...

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-09-16 11:38am

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Dahak wrote:Well, it is still considered illegal here
Symbols that can be mistaken for Nazi symbols, are illegal.
But if that's the case, then why the heck does the Luftwaffe still display the Iron Cross??

If I'm not mistaken, the Iron Cross was an award that predated Hitler.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-09-16 11:44am

Crayz9000 wrote:
Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Dahak wrote:Well, it is still considered illegal here
Symbols that can be mistaken for Nazi symbols, are illegal.
But if that's the case, then why the heck does the Luftwaffe still display the Iron Cross??
If I'm not mistaken, the Iron Cross was an award that predated Hitler.

However, a lot of Neo-Nazis use the Iron Cross (or the Cross of St. George, as it's also known) in the same way as Communists use the Red Star.

Zoink · Post by **Zoink** » 2003-09-16 12:52pm

LadyTevar wrote:If the crosses on the ends were pointed in the wrong directions, then isn't it supposed to be a Hindu sun symbol, and a blessing?

It might be a Hindu symbol too, but I know its a japanese symbol called "manji" and if you see it on a building, it means its a temple.

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2003-09-16 01:32pm

Nazi Aliens. Or Buddhist aliens. Wonderful.

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2003-09-16 02:04pm

A bunch of Neo Nazis kicking each others butts yelling DUMBKOFF!

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2003-09-16 04:38pm

Frank Hipper wrote:
EmperorChrostas the Cruel wrote:Kolchak, the night stalker vs the Rakshasa!
Kolchak was the ORIGINAL X filer!
Demons, Zombies, ETs, Vampires, you name it, he fought them, not out of choice, but survival.
That's why Gavin McCloud had a recurring character on the X-Files.

Yes!! That was him!! I loved that show!

And the version of the swastika the nazis used was very much a good luck symbol in the western world, though perhaps not the "blessing" of the Tibetan version. It was called the "lucky cross", and was used in advertising everything from citrus fruit from California to Coca-Cola.
There's an Art-Deco building in Wichita, KS. that has very prominant swastika tiles, and they're all the "nazi" version. It dates from the late 20s, IIRC. My one first hand account with this little tidbit o' trivia.

I'm surprised no one ever suggested changing the tiling!

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-09-16 06:36pm

A couple tiles have been vandalised, and the building stood vacant for years. It's in a predominantly black neighborhood, too. Which makes it's mostly intact status a little curious.
But the architect is a nationally recognised art deco period artist, and the few buildings of his left in town are very highly thought of. He was good, too. Without his name, Google is turning up crap. Wanted to share.