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Impressive Nazi Fucker Site
Posted: 2004-03-03 10:42pm
by IRG CommandoJoe
Yep, they're Nazi fuckers, but they sure did a good job with their site. I'm impressed by the sheer volume of merchandise they have. http: //
www.pzg.biz/
Now, on to the evidence that they are indeed Nazi bastards:
Replica ZYKLON-B canister!
Museum quality replica modeled from an original liberated in 1945.
"Konzentrationslager Auschwitz 13 IV 1943"
Used to destroy unsightly pests and vermin by German military authorities in order to fight the spread of diseases.
For display purposes only!
http: //
www.pzg.biz/zyklon-b.htm
While I agree with them about political corectness distorting history and such, the fact remains that they are still Nazi asshole bastard motherfuckers. This page in particular disturbs me only slightly less than the Zyklon B page:
http: //
www.pzg.biz/gold_mother's_cross.htm
However, there's one part of their site that puzzles me:
"The Poison Mushroom"
Published by Julius Streicher who would later be hanged at Nuremberg for war crimes. His crime practicing FREE SPEECH in a sovereign nation! This is the most infamous anti-Jewish book that Julius Streicher ever published. It was a racial education manual for Adolf Hitler's Third Reich German children concerning the "Jewish problem". Once enlightened to the "Jewish menace" the population would be able to "protect" themselves and the nation.
http: //
www.pzg.biz/poison_mushroom.htm
It seems as though the author is being sarcastic about the Jews being a threat. Is this simply being arrogant about the Jews being a threat or is this sympathizing with them?
Posted: 2004-03-03 10:56pm
by Robert Treder
Ugh, that "Mother's Cross" page is the worst out of all of them. They're corrupting eight children.
Free speech be damned, Germany has the right idea: Nazism should be illegal.
Posted: 2004-03-03 11:32pm
by IRG CommandoJoe
Mmmm...I dunno...(shrugs)...I can't decide one way or the other about that. It would be a double standard, hypocritical, and probably un-Constitutional to illegalize one political ideology while not illegalizing others, but then again this one in particular is destructive....but somehow I believe it would probably cause more trouble than it would solve. It would give others the idea they could illegalize other ideologies as well. But not even considering the repercussions of illegalizing Nazism, I still think it's wrong in principle.
EDIT: *blinks*
...
Oh. How about that? I guess I
did decide.
Posted: 2004-03-04 01:14am
by DPDarkPrimus
How about a happy Nazi site?
http://nazi.org !
Posted: 2004-03-04 01:16am
by SyntaxVorlon
I hate Illinois Nazis.
Posted: 2004-03-04 01:21am
by Robert Treder
Lol! Look at this quote from that site: "The average black commits murder 7.9 times as often as the average white"
Call it a hunch, but my guess is that the average white commits murder 0 times. Which means that THE AVERAGE BLACK PERSON COMMITS 8 x 0 MURDERS!
Posted: 2004-03-04 01:28am
by IRG CommandoJoe
SyntaxVorlon wrote:I hate Illinois Nazis.
*Plows through Nazis in squad car.
Robert Treder wrote:Lol! Look at this quote from that site: "The average black commits murder 7.9 times as often as the average white"
Call it a hunch, but my guess is that the average white commits murder 0 times. Which means that THE AVERAGE BLACK PERSON COMMITS 8 x 0 MURDERS!
Do you mean to
them or in
reality?
Posted: 2004-03-04 01:30am
by Robert Treder
IRG CommandoJoe wrote:Robert Treder wrote:Lol! Look at this quote from that site: "The average black commits murder 7.9 times as often as the average white"
Call it a hunch, but my guess is that the average white commits murder 0 times. Which means that THE AVERAGE BLACK PERSON COMMITS 8 x 0 MURDERS!
Do you mean to
them or in
reality?
I mean that they're trying to portray blacks as vicious murderers, but through being retarded, they only manage to say that the average black person commits 0 murders. Which is probably roughly true.
Posted: 2004-03-04 01:38am
by DPDarkPrimus
Robert Treder wrote:IRG CommandoJoe wrote:Robert Treder wrote:Lol! Look at this quote from that site: "The average black commits murder 7.9 times as often as the average white"
Call it a hunch, but my guess is that the average white commits murder 0 times. Which means that THE AVERAGE BLACK PERSON COMMITS 8 x 0 MURDERS!
Do you mean to
them or in
reality?
I mean that they're trying to portray blacks as vicious murderers, but through being retarded, they only manage to say that the average black person commits 0 murders. Which is probably roughly true.
Ah, you haven't caught on that it's a parody site. Either that, or the most seriously fucked up party ever. Just read it, for crying out loud.
Posted: 2004-03-04 02:07am
by Robert Treder
Eh, I've seen people who were actually stupider, so it wouldn't surprise me either way. Regardless, all I read were their flyers.
Posted: 2004-03-04 02:38am
by kojikun
The national crime statistics actually show that percentage-wise, blacks are twice as involved in criminal activity as whites. the causes are probably piss-poor education systems and crap jobs. white kids raised in the same neighborhoods end up equally criminal as their black counterparts and vice versa when blacks are raised in "high quality white neighborhoods".
Posted: 2004-03-04 03:06am
by Rogue 9
DPDarkPrimus wrote:Robert Treder wrote:IRG CommandoJoe wrote:
Do you mean to
them or in
reality?
I mean that they're trying to portray blacks as vicious murderers, but through being retarded, they only manage to say that the average black person commits 0 murders. Which is probably roughly true.
Ah, you haven't caught on that it's a parody site. Either that, or the most seriously fucked up party ever. Just read it, for crying out loud.
I don't know, you'd think that Jack Chick's site is a parody too, but its not.
Posted: 2004-03-04 10:15am
by Peregrin Toker
DPDarkPrimus wrote:Ah, you haven't caught on that it's a parody site. Either that, or the most seriously fucked up party ever. Just read it, for crying out loud.
It's actually a serious site and apparently the result of somebody trying to mix as many ideologies as possible.
Robert Treder wrote:Eh, I've seen people who were actually stupider, so it wouldn't surprise me either way. Regardless, all I read were their flyers
Exactly whom are you referring to?
Posted: 2004-03-04 12:38pm
by CDiehl
Actually, Germany has it wrong. The worst way to deal with Nazis or anyone like them is to outlaw them or make them into a joke. The bet way is to take these people as seriously as you would anyone else, and require them to present their ideas as a logical argument, like everyone else must. To marginalize them or make them a joke lets them present themselves as victims. Also, if you treat them like intelligent people, holding them to the same rules of logic and debate, they will reveal their philosophy not to make much sense or have much to offer the world. It's true that some people will take to this set of beliefs, but there's not a lot you can do for them, and unless they actually do harm, you have to leave them alone anyway. You don't want to hand them the moral high ground, do you?
Posted: 2004-03-04 01:45pm
by Cornelius
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:38 pm Post subject:
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Actually, Germany has it wrong. The worst way to deal with Nazis or anyone like them is to outlaw them or make them into a joke. The bet way is to take these people as seriously as you would anyone else, and require them to present their ideas as a logical argument, like everyone else must. To marginalize them or make them a joke lets them present themselves as victims. Also, if you treat them like intelligent people, holding them to the same rules of logic and debate, they will reveal their philosophy not to make much sense or have much to offer the world. It's true that some people will take to this set of beliefs, but there's not a lot you can do for them, and unless they actually do harm, you have to leave them alone anyway. You don't want to hand them the moral high ground, do you?
1. No one thinks the Nazis have the moral high ground
2. No logical or educated person can believe whatever they say, for it never is any good.
3. The nazis are hardly seen as "victimized."
4. They should keep it illegal because they might able in the future to fool idiot young people who have no real education in the concept of Nazism.
Posted: 2004-03-04 02:32pm
by Ghost Rider
Split flames into Hall of Shame
Posted: 2004-03-04 03:07pm
by Robert Treder
Peregrin Toker wrote:Robert Treder wrote:Eh, I've seen people who were actually stupider, so it wouldn't surprise me either way. Regardless, all I read were their flyers
Exactly whom are you referring to?
Jack Chick especially, but there are some pretty fucking stupid people that went to my high school too.
Re: Impressive Nazi Fucker Site
Posted: 2004-03-04 03:49pm
by Comosicus
IRG CommandoJoe wrote:Yep, they're Nazi fuckers, but they sure did a good job with their site. I'm impressed by the sheer volume of merchandise they have. http: //
www.pzg.biz/
I don't find it impressive at all. That site looks like shit. It has the right color theme too
Posted: 2004-03-04 09:24pm
by Superman
American Nazis are something of a contradition, aren't they? America did afterall fight against them in a war! Real Nazis KILLED Americans, right? Not only Jews, Russians, etc.
Posted: 2004-03-05 12:00am
by Gandalf
Superman wrote:American Nazis are something of a contradition, aren't they? America did afterall fight against them in a war! Real Nazis KILLED Americans, right? Not only Jews, Russians, etc.
Nazi is just short for National Socialist.
You went to war with Germany, under a Nazi regime. Like Red China/Russia, and there are American commies.
Posted: 2004-03-05 12:22am
by CDiehl
I never said Nazis had any moral high ground now. The Germans want so much not to be associated with Nazism, they have gone to the opposite extreme, and it's just as wrong and stupid. You don't beat Nazism by shoving it into a corner and pretending it doesn't exist. You beat it by making it prove itself in the arena of ideas, and watching it suck hard. Also, who gives a flying fuck if some imbecile might choose to believe this load of bullshit? You can't help them, because they'd pervert any belief into something sick and horrid. Why should we make things easy for the stupid? Let them learn the hard way if they must.
Posted: 2004-03-05 04:28pm
by Peregrin Toker
Superman wrote:American Nazis are something of a contradition, aren't they? America did afterall fight against them in a war! Real Nazis KILLED Americans, right? Not only Jews, Russians, etc.
This is nothing compared to the fact that the Neo-Nazi movement seemingly is standing stronger in Poland than anywhere else.
It's documented that
Das Dritte Reich treated Poles
even worse than they treated Jews... (and that counts for something) so the existence of polish Neo-Nazis is so bizarre that it borders between frightening and unintentionally hilarious.
Posted: 2004-03-06 06:08am
by Bob McDob
Aw, I was hoping this would be some sexual fetish about a manhore who dresses up in an SS suit and recites from Mein Kampf while screwing :\
Posted: 2004-03-06 06:19am
by Peregrin Toker
Bob McDob wrote:Aw, I was hoping this would be some sexual fetish about a manhore who dresses up in an SS suit and recites from Mein Kampf while screwing :\
[mantra] Must... avoid... making fun of MKSheppard... [/mantra]
Posted: 2004-03-06 08:18am
by Einhander Sn0m4n
Peregrin Toker wrote:Bob McDob wrote:Aw, I was hoping this would be some sexual fetish about a manhore who dresses up in an SS suit and recites from Mein Kampf while screwing :\
[mantra] Must... avoid... making fun of MKSheppard... [/mantra]
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