DEA Agent Shoots Self During Gun Safety Class

Burak Gazan · Post by **Burak Gazan** » 2004-04-30 03:33pm

http://www.local6.com/news/3254509/detail.html

Holy cow, I hope the point was made at least !

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2004-04-30 03:55pm

Well, he had shown them the dangers of guns with that.....

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2004-04-30 03:55pm

Yargh!

Repeat after me: REMOVE MAGAZINE! RACK SLIDE TO REMOVE CHAMBERED ROUND! DOUBLE CHECK! DECOCK THE WEAPON OR ENGAGE THE SAFETY!

Oh wait, a DEA agent? 'Nuff Said!

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-04-30 04:15pm

Well, this certainly shows us the calibre of the agents that'll be breaking down doors and arresting people for the horrendous crime of putting whatever substances they want into their own bodies.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2004-04-30 04:23pm

"The kids screamed and started to cry," said Vivian Farmer, who attended the presentation with her 13-year-old nephew.

"Everyone was pretty shaken up," Farmer said. "But the point of gun safety hit home. Unfortunately, the agent had to get shot. But after seeing that, my nephew doesn't want to have anything to do with guns."

Maybe the DEA should integrate this into all of their firearm safety classes.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-04-30 04:51pm

How did he manage to shoot himself like that? I didn't think a weapon could fire if the slide was drawn back.

Well, at least it seems like the kids got the message. I hope he's learned a lesson about firearms, too.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2004-04-30 05:18pm

Master of Ossus wrote:How did he manage to shoot himself like that? I didn't think a weapon could fire if the slide was drawn back.

The gun fired after the slide was released.

From the article:
Witnesses said the gun was pointed at the floor and when he released the slide, one shot fired into the top of his left thigh.

Although the gun still shouldn't have fired.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-04-30 07:37pm

Stuff like this is exactly why they make dummy ammunition for guns of all calibers, so you can give demonstrations and training were you might be distracted or some people might be inexperienced and have no risk of an accidental discharge.

Master of Ossus wrote:How did he manage to shoot himself like that? I didn't think a weapon could fire if the slide was drawn back.

Sounds like he probably released the slide with a magazine still in the gun and it loaded a round which then slam fired.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-04-30 07:56pm

This guy was conducting a safety demonstration for children with a loaded weapon?

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-04-30 08:10pm

Darth Wong wrote: This guy was conducting a safety demonstration for children with a loaded weapon?

That right there will ensure this guy a rightful spot among those who have won a Darwin Award.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-04-30 08:17pm

The Kernel wrote:
Darth Wong wrote: This guy was conducting a safety demonstration for children with a loaded weapon?
That right there will ensure this guy a rightful spot among those who have won a Darwin Award.

Nope, you have to remove yourself from the gene pool to get a Darwin. This guy can have kids still, so no Darwin.

Burak Gazan · Post by **Burak Gazan** » 2004-04-30 08:20pm

The Kernel wrote:
Darth Wong wrote: This guy was conducting a safety demonstration for children with a loaded weapon?
That right there will ensure this guy a rightful spot among those who have won a Darwin Award.

Maybe if he'd been aiming a little to the left and down, yeah......

Honourable mention though

Mitth`raw`nuruodo · Post by **Mitth`raw`nuruodo** » 2004-04-30 08:38pm

This reminds me of my old science teacher. Formally a shop class teacher, he cut off his right ring finger on a table saw. During a safety lecture about how to properly use them.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-04-30 08:43pm

My 8th grade science teacher accidentally attacked his own truck with a rocket once. While showing us how to fire them properly.

Mitth`raw`nuruodo · Post by **Mitth`raw`nuruodo** » 2004-04-30 08:52pm

Hey... *looks at news station* THIS IS LOCAL! I never watch channel six news, it sucks, but this event happened half an hour away. I might know people who were involved....

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kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2004-04-30 09:18pm

Read the article..

"Then he pulled back the slide and asked someone in the audience to look inside the gun and confirm it wasn't loaded, the report said."

Now, did he tell the person to look down the barrel, or did he spine the gun around so it was POINTING AT HIMSELF? I suspect the latter. Either way, he was wrong to presume it was unloaded.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-04-30 11:18pm

kojikun wrote:Read the article..

"Then he pulled back the slide and asked someone in the audience to look inside the gun and confirm it wasn't loaded, the report said."

Now, did he tell the person to look down the barrel, or did he spine the gun around so it was POINTING AT HIMSELF? I suspect the latter. Either way, he was wrong to presume it was unloaded.

Do you know anything about guns? What he did was ask somone to look into the chamber not down the fucking barrel. And when you do that you have the gun pointed at the ground, the fact that he then shot himself in the leg supports that simple logic.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-04-30 11:20pm

Darth Wong wrote: This guy was conducting a safety demonstration for children with a loaded weapon?

Well to do the job properlly you do need bullets in it. But as i siad, they make dummies for the job. This guy was an idiot who appears to have then suffered from some bad luck.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-04-30 11:35pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:Well to do the job properlly you do need bullets in it. But as i siad, they make dummies for the job. This guy was an idiot who appears to have then suffered from some bad luck.

No way. There's no reason whatsoever for him to have live rounds anywhere near those kids. They don't allow live rounds on film sets!

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-04-30 11:39pm

Lord Poe wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:Well to do the job properlly you do need bullets in it. But as i siad, they make dummies for the job. This guy was an idiot who appears to have then suffered from some bad luck.
No way. There's no reason whatsoever for him to have live rounds anywhere near those kids. They don't allow live rounds on film sets!

Probably since the fuck-ups with Brandon Lee

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2004-04-30 11:43pm

I hope this guy is fired. But being a gov't employee he will probably get promoted and given a corner office.

Burak Gazan · Post by **Burak Gazan** » 2004-04-30 11:43pm

And that was a blank round too if I remember

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-05-01 12:07am

TrailerParkJawa wrote:I hope this guy is fired. But being a gov't employee he will probably get promoted and given a corner office.

I thought this promoting idiots was only a Canadian thing,i guess i was wrong and the practice is worldwide.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2004-05-01 12:20am

Isn't that the Dilbert Principle? Idiots are always promoted to the levels of management in which they can do the least damage.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-05-01 12:21am

TrailerParkJawa wrote:I hope this guy is fired. But being a gov't employee he will probably get promoted and given a corner office.

...Which removes him from ever wielding a gun in such a situation again. Not the most ethical plan in the world, but you must admit it works.