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attempted murder would be over the top, however something like wreckless endangerment would be suitable.Faram wrote:I would like to see a law that sentence anyone caught driving intoxicated with attempted murder.
And if a intoxicated driver hurts or kills anyone sentence the asshole for murder.
I can agree with the mentality. But charging, let alone convicting someone for murder if no one has died is a massive crime in its self and should never occur.Faram wrote:I would like to see a law that sentence anyone caught driving intoxicated with attempted murder.
And if a intoxicated driver hurts or kills anyone sentence the asshole for murder.
Over the top? If it where up to me I would have them shot at once. I HATE drunk drivers.Darth_Zod wrote:attempted murder would be over the top, however something like wreckless endangerment would be suitable.
i'm not trying to say that driving while drunk isn't a bad thing by any means, but you have to make the charge suitable to the crime. If nobody got hurt as a result, then attempted murder is hardly suitable.Faram wrote:Over the top? If it where up to me I would have them shot at once. I HATE drunk drivers.Darth_Zod wrote:attempted murder would be over the top, however something like wreckless endangerment would be suitable.
I am biased in this question, and cannot be rational about it.Darth_Zod wrote:i'm not trying to say that driving while drunk isn't a bad thing by any means, but you have to make the charge suitable to the crime. If nobody got hurt as a result, then attempted murder is hardly suitable.
Too bad it never stops them from driving. I'd be rich if I had a quarter for every time I hear about some asshole driving drunk without a license. It pisses me off big time and makes my cop buddy want to do a Rodney King beating on every drunk driver he pulls over.Shark Bait wrote:In mesa if someone is injured by a drunk driver the drunk is charged with agrivated assault. Most drunk drivers get put away for 4-6 years sometimes the max of 8. Oh and usually they loose their lisence perminantly.
Really? In Health class they told us that a single shot would put you over the limit. Unless PA's .8 limit is much, much lower than Ontario's.The stories of people getting blowing over the limit because they had one beer are just that, stories. Stories they made up.
That's the same as our limit, and you mean .08, at .8 you'd be dead from alcohol poisoning. We got the same lecture in our driver's ed class, and there is a bit of truth to that. If you were to down a shot of liquor (40% alcohol) you'd have residual liquor & fumes in your mouth for a few minutes. If you blew into a breathalyzer right after doing a shot, you'd blow over the limit. But if you wash it down with a glass of water or simply wait a few minutes before blowing, you'll be under the limit. This doesn't happen with beer or wine since the alcohol content generally isn't high enough to cause the residue & fume problem.HemlockGrey wrote:Really? In Health class they told us that a single shot would put you over the limit. Unless PA's .8 limit is much, much lower than Ontario's.
Impaired due to what?aerius wrote:# Transport Canada reports that in 2000, there was a total of 981 fatalities due to impaired driving
How much alcohol?# Canadian Centre of Substance Abuse reports that in 1996, 41.6% of fatally injured drivers had alcohol in their system.
Again playing devil's advocate, just from a utilitarian standpoint-- ~1000 deaths is what you're up in arms about?# Health Canada estimates that 1690 Canadians die and 74000 Canadians are injured as a result of drunk driving.
The last year I have stats for (2001) there were 3021 total traffic fatalities & an estimated 356 000 injuries in Canada. So depending on whose numbers you use, between 1/3 & 1/2 of all motor vehicle fatalities were caused by drunks.
I had a friend, a 165 lb male and no stranger to alcohol, who had literally drank three beers from noon till about 9pm and still managed to blow a .07Drunks as in they blew over the legal limit, which believe me, takes a lot more than a couple beers even if you're a 115 lbs woman. A bunch of us have verified this at the local bar and at parties with my cop buddy's official police breathalyzer. The stories of people getting blowing over the limit because they had one beer are just that, stories. Stories they made up.
No, frankly there are not.1337n1nj4 wrote:Again playing devil's advocate, just from a utilitarian standpoint-- ~1000 deaths is what you're up in arms about?
Aren't there other issues, even on the roadways, that are a bit more deserving of crusading?
Thank you for the rational, logically backed response.Howedar wrote:No, frankly there are not.1337n1nj4 wrote:Again playing devil's advocate, just from a utilitarian standpoint-- ~1000 deaths is what you're up in arms about?
Aren't there other issues, even on the roadways, that are a bit more deserving of crusading?
Unless your friend had one beer at noon and the other two between 8 and 9 or the analyzer malfunctioned, I'd recommend he get his liver checked out by a physician.1337n1nj4 wrote:[
I had a friend, a 165 lb male and no stranger to alcohol, who had literally drank three beers from noon till about 9pm and still managed to blow a .07
Recently a drunk old man slammed into a minivan down the street from me.Montcalm wrote:Great now there's a new thing happening recently on the news here,they just caught another old drunk asshole DWI and againg he was caught several times 6 times in less than a year,how many more times was he driving without being arrested?
Well anyway the few others who were caught before this fucker killed or injured young kids,all of them are between 50 and 70 years old,yeah we have more responsible driver in the younger people,but its the old farts who are dangerous,either they are losing their eyesights or they are just stupid.
