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Yes, there are indeed people who think that science is evil.
Where do they come from?
Why do I have to meet them all the time?

The most recent one said this:
Science has always said that it don't know everything NOW but it will in time. We now know this is not true. Science is as stupid as a child, leaping of the roof of a house thinking it can fly. The scientific era is coming to an end.

[crap about dictators, terrorists and even common people soon will be able to create weapons of mass destruction in their back yard thanks to the evil science.]

A big change will come. Wether this is for good or bad is not known. It is like death; you don't what's on the other side until you're there.
This is a VERY shortened version of what he wrote.
You can translate it into this:
"Science cannot find answers to every question, therefor we should throw it away."

Is this dude crazy or is it just me?
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It's just you. He's just stupid.

Really, tho...what the fuck? Throw out science...yeah. That makes a WHOLE lot of sense...:roll:

As if science will ever actually be gone and we'll all turn into religious peoples...yeh, and what about the atheists? Do we kill them off so that we can abolish science for good?
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verilon wrote:It's just you. He's just stupid.

Really, tho...what the fuck? Throw out science...yeah. That makes a WHOLE lot of sense...:roll:

As if science will ever actually be gone and we'll all turn into religious peoples...yeh, and what about the atheists? Do we kill them off so that we can abolish science for good?
Thanks for the compliment. It was a compliment wasn't it :?:

The Church did precisely that during the Dark Ages, killed all the atheists.
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Dooey Jo wrote:
verilon wrote:It's just you. He's just stupid.

Really, tho...what the fuck? Throw out science...yeah. That makes a WHOLE lot of sense...:roll:

As if science will ever actually be gone and we'll all turn into religious peoples...yeh, and what about the atheists? Do we kill them off so that we can abolish science for good?
Thanks for the compliment. It was a compliment wasn't it :?:

The Church did precisely that during the Dark Ages, killed all the atheists.
I was joking about the it's just you...but he really is just another fucking dumbass. He is crazy...ugh...people like him make me sick...unfortunately, they're also part of what makes the world go round...grr.....
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With these sorts of idiots I always say

Oh yeah?

Me:Just wait 200 years come back and then we will see
Them:I won't be alive in 200 years
Me:ooooh to bad

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Mr Bean wrote:With these sorts of idiots I always say

Oh yeah?

Me:Just wait 200 years come back and then we will see
Them:I won't be alive in 200 years
Me:ooooh to bad
haha! lol that's funny!

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Anything else that might describe my habits?
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Dooey Jo wrote:"Science cannot find answers to every question, therefor we should throw it away."

Is this dude crazy or is it just me?
He's crazy. The argument in favour of science is the same as the argument in favour of democracy. It is an imperfect system. But it is still 10 times better than every other system. Compare the success rate of science with that of, say, personal revelation, and you'll see what I mean.

What the fuck does he think he's typing on? A computer that was designed through religious belief rather than application of scientific principles? What a fucking idiot.
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Let's compare.

The Roman Catholic Church ruthlessly oppressed all ideas that differed slightly from it's doctrine. The result was four hundred years of darkness.

The Eastern Orthodox Church(i.e. the Byzantine Empire) did not. The result was four hundred years of light, prosperity, and civilization - up to and including the invention of the first steam engine.


Gee, the RCC made such a great choice...
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Dooey Jo wrote:Yes, there are indeed people who think that science is evil.
Where do they come from?
Why do I have to meet them all the time?

The most recent one said this:
Science has always said that it don't know everything NOW but it will in time. We now know this is not true. Science is as stupid as a child, leaping of the roof of a house thinking it can fly. The scientific era is coming to an end.

[crap about dictators, terrorists and even common people soon will be able to create weapons of mass destruction in their back yard thanks to the evil science.]

A big change will come. Wether this is for good or bad is not known. It is like death; you don't what's on the other side until you're there.
This is a VERY shortened version of what he wrote.
You can translate it into this:
"Science cannot find answers to every question, therefor we should throw it away."

Is this dude crazy or is it just me?
Good ol' Michael Chritchon, this is an except from his famous book ::dramatic drum roll:: Jurrassic Park. The person saying this is Ian Malcolm (played by Jeff Goldblum in the movie) you must keep in mind though,that just a few chapters from now Ian will slip into terminal delirium, so there is a chance that his mind isn't working correctly at this point and that is what is leading him to say this irrational gibberish.
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The anti-science message of Jurassic Park was idiotic anyway.
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Darth Wong wrote:The anti-science message of Jurassic Park was idiotic anyway.
True, but an entertaining read in my opinion.
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We never should have used science, we'd be so much better off if we never got past the stone age.

It was the technology derived from science that let cavemen use the fire to keep warm. It was the technology derived from science that allowed cavemen to develop better weapons. It was scientific knowledge that kept the human race alive.
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Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:We never should have used science, we'd be so much better off if we never got past the stone age.

It was science that let cavemen use the fire to keep warm. It was science that allowed cavemen to develop better weapons. It was science that kept the human race alive.
Of course not! Science is evil, remember! That's why we have to avoid the things we are fucking tyupig on, and the things that take us to work and school everyday...the fucking moron...

And love your sarcasm, btw! :D
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What the fuck does he think he's typing on? A computer that was designed through religious belief rather than application of scientific principles? What a fucking idiot.
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Good ol' Michael Chritchon, this is an except from his famous book ::dramatic drum roll:: Jurrassic Park. The person saying this is Ian Malcolm (played by Jeff Goldblum in the movie) you must keep in mind though,that just a few chapters from now Ian will slip into terminal delirium, so there is a chance that his mind isn't working correctly at this point and that is what is leading him to say this irrational gibberish.
Crichton is an obvious scientific ignoramus, anyway. He seeks to make people believe that the failures of his fictional theme park are due to irrevocable forces of nature which will spank humanity every time our scientists "cross a line." Instead, it was quite obvious that the failure of the park was due to over-centralized security and extreme incompetence on the part of the designers and staff of the park. However, everyone who sees the film is supposed to skip this perfectly obvious conclusion and think, "We need to leash and chain scientists before something like this ever happens! Down with human cloning! Down with science!"

Hell, the previews for the third installment were enough to make me vomit at the thought of seeing it. When the main character is walking through the destroyed lab and says, "This is what happens when you play God," I decided that the film would be yet another piece of anti-scientific trash, meant to promote the message that science is some sort of ticking time bomb, and that we will all be punished lest we learn to control our hubris. It's just one, last, desperate attempt by religion to encroach on the scientific domain. They claim that science gives the human race a big head because it has given us so much knowledge and technology, and that we should humble ourselves, or we will be punished.

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Durandal wrote:
What the fuck does he think he's typing on? A computer that was designed through religious belief rather than application of scientific principles? What a fucking idiot.
Introducing the new Pentium Zion processor! If it doesn't work, you don't have enough faith!
Hehe...
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Here's the question no one ever answers: Why is gaining knowledge and being proud of those discoveries bad?
It isn't. That's why no one answer.
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Nothing wrong with gaining knowledge.

It's the way it is used by some idiots that can scare you...
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Knowledge is power. Knowledge can't be taken away from you. So, they don't want knowledge because it threatens their hold on you.
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Darth Yoshi wrote:...Knowledge can't be taken away from you...
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Huh?
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Darth Yoshi wrote:Huh?
Hit someone with a bat, they get dain bramage, they know less stuff. Simple.
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Andrew J. wrote:
Darth Yoshi wrote:Huh?
Hit someone with a bat, they get dain bramage, they know less stuff. Simple.
No, it's just that they're no longer able to access it.
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Knowledge = power

Power corrupts....ok maybe not...but power is scary
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And absolute power corrupts absolutely, which would explain the Biblical god.
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