Abolish Political Parties?

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2004-08-04 07:47am

Well, I don't know about you, but the principle of political parties is beginning to get on my tits, they're all about compromise, and if the major ones band together to fuck people over, there's nothing you can do about it. We're reduced to a 2 or 3 party system, and have to end up voting for the lesser of 2 evils usually.

So anyway, how about we abolish them altogether and just have single candidates and their singular views standing for local elections, who then are voted in by the people to represent their constituancy in a parliament that they vote in.

Alternatively, how about a mass referendum service akin to nationstates, cutting more power from the politicians themselves, I mean, can you really trust someone who wants to be a politician?

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-08-04 07:52am

I don't think you could abolish political parties.

Assuming somehow you did, they'd just call themselves alliances or some such. It would be like abolishing the social groups in schools.

Post by **Cairber** » 2004-08-04 09:44am

Have you read Washingtons farwell address? If you are interested in this subject I highly reccomend it. You can find it quite easily on the net.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2004-08-04 10:50am

Didn't Thomas Jefferson (or was it John Adams?) once say that democracy was an inherently self-destructive system?

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-04 11:36am

Well whichever one it is was obviously wrong, because here's the United States, not only still standing, but the Most Powerful Nation in the World (tm).

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2004-08-04 02:13pm

Alternatively, how about a mass referendum service akin to nationstates, cutting more power from the politicians themselves, I mean, can you really trust someone who wants to be a politician?

You trust the general public that much? The same undereducated irrational bunch of shitheads we regularly malign here at SDnet?

This is like handing a loaded gun to a child. Yeah, if he gets motivated and organized enough, he just might hit a target, but he's more likely to just blow his damn fool foot off and cry about it.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-08-04 04:06pm

Peregrin Toker wrote:Didn't Thomas Jefferson (or was it John Adams?) once say that democracy was an inherently self-destructive system?

Most of the Founding Fathers were terrified of the idea of true democracy and thought nothing good could come from it. John Adams was very much a British style elitist and while Jefferson was all about the little guy, he didn't think that democracy was possible beyond the scale of small towns.

It also didn't help that the French Revolution was happening and guys just like the Founding Fathers were being beheaded in droves and alot of the wealthy in America were afraid that the same thing would happen here, thanks to democracy.

SWPIGWANG · Post by **SWPIGWANG** » 2004-08-04 04:15pm

It is easy to curb political parties.

Just use proptional representation with almost no minimum bar of influence. Basically, one can set in parliment whatever with a low number of votes and the amount of voting power is proptional to number of votes. Some european countries do this and you get "each man an party" case with something like ~30 parties in the government.

SWPIGWANG · Post by **SWPIGWANG** » 2004-08-04 04:18pm

oh, and with something like 30 parties there'd be more deadlocks and instability, so it isn't always perfect.

and truely loonie people gets representation as well....but thats a good part I guess.