Alright, people I'm going to rant and rave for a bit.
As you may or may not know, there is currently another one of those international custody disputes going on between Finland and the US, with the Finnish mother of a Finnish-American couple raising nine kinds of hell and a dozen varieties of pandemonium about the custody dispute with her American husband.
Facts of the case: She did not have sole custody of the kids (two boys, ages 9 and 12), and she brought them to Finland for a holiday some months ago, which was all okay and agreed upon with the boys' dad. The problem is that she didn't take them back, and they were then living with their father, and now she is refusing to abide by court decisions. The lower court here said they have to go back, because of the international treaty on child kidnapping Finland and US are both signatories to and which says that custodial disputes are handled in the country of residence of the children (in this case the US), the Appeals Court overturned that, saying the kids' opinion is weighty enough and because they want to stay with mom etc etc, and finally the Supreme Court bitch-slapped the Appeals Court and ordered the boys returned immediately and then made the followup decision to refuse to reverse their own ruling when the whiny cunt demanded it.
Now it's all over the fucking media here, just like the Campoy case a few years ago (almost exactly the same, except worse, the mom took her kids away from the states in the middle of a custody trial), and they're again trotting out the same bullshit from the whiny social workers who keep talking about children's interests (and ignoring the larger ramifications of ignoring the treaty), with protests featuring kids carrying placards saying things like "The Boys say: No USA, Yes Finland" and for fuck's sake, even some members of our Parliament have gone in on the act.
These assholes need to be beaten severely with a 2x4 with rusty nails sticking out of it. How the fuck can we demand other countries to abide by the treaty when Finnish kids are taken elsewhere (numerous cases down the years), and yet it seems that when a Finnish parent does the same, there is no way the kids should be returned to the country of origin to settle the case? This bitch, just like that Campoy woman earlier, brought all the shit and negative consequences on herself by acting in defiance of both nation's laws and if she is not awarded custody (typically a huge mark against if you've taken the kids on your own), she's got nobody but herself to blame, and I'm fucking tired of hearing about an open and shut case like it was somehow big news. Just like the Elian Gonzalez case a few years ago, same thing, that, the Campoy case and now this new one. All cut from the same cloth.
These assholes piss me off no end.
Edi
Fucking Idiots!!! (International Child Custody Disputes)
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Fucking Idiots!!! (International Child Custody Disputes)
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Plus, the kids probably don't even know what's going on. Heck, they probably just know that Mommy only loves them if they say they want to stay. Great basis for a treaty-breaking court ruling.
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9 is too young to make any decision about which parent they want to live with. 12 is pushing it.
As someone who went through this kind of shit growing up, let me say: that fucking bitch should go to hell. Someone needs to blow out the back of her skull.
She's taken the kids away from their father, cutting off all contact whatsoever, she's thrust them into a culture which they have very little knowlege of; and she's going to be feeding them lies about her ex husband until they finally get old enough to get the hell out of there.
As someone who went through this kind of shit growing up, let me say: that fucking bitch should go to hell. Someone needs to blow out the back of her skull.
She's taken the kids away from their father, cutting off all contact whatsoever, she's thrust them into a culture which they have very little knowlege of; and she's going to be feeding them lies about her ex husband until they finally get old enough to get the hell out of there.
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Exactly. There is a reason why our Supreme Court unanimously overturned the appellate decision.Bob the Gunslinger wrote:Plus, the kids probably don't even know what's going on. Heck, they probably just know that Mommy only loves them if they say they want to stay. Great basis for a treaty-breaking court ruling.
Yes, assuming the case is a domestic custody dispute. In an international case like this one which involves crossing borders and so forth, their opinions cannot be given any weight whatsoever because of the larger issues involved, unless it can be shown that one of the parents is abusive.Alex Moon wrote:9 is too young to make any decision about which parent they want to live with. 12 is pushing it.
You'd be surprised at how similar in quite many respects Finland is to America. It's not for nothing that we've been said to be the most Americanized country in Europe. However, given how young the kids are now, why do you think they would leave Finland in the future if they were to stay now? They couldn't really do that on their own until they were 18, by which time they would have put down some deep roots, formed friendships, maybe relationships, and there wouldn't be anything familiar apart from their father to go back to. This is exactly the thinking that the offenders use in these cases, take the kids away and keep them away long enough, then cry about the children's best interests (which in reality would be settling the custody dispute in the relevant country's courts instead of pulling this shit).Alex Moon wrote:She's taken the kids away from their father, cutting off all contact whatsoever, she's thrust them into a culture which they have very little knowlege of; and she's going to be feeding them lies about her ex husband until they finally get old enough to get the hell out of there.
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GOP message? Why don't they just come out of the closet: FASCISTS R' US –Patrick Degan
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