Lokitorrent Shutdown A Hoax?

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2005-02-24 03:42pm

Full article is here.

1) LokiTorrent never provided the name or details of any lawyer representing the internet site. No federal judge's name has been listed anywhere throughout the so-called proceedings. Texas courts have no record of any filed judicial proceedings on behalf of the MPAA against Loki Torrent and/or Ed Webber.

2) During the same period of time that Loki was making tens of thousands of dollars monthly via donations, the owners of Loki Torrent were also actively trying to sell the domain. LokiTorrent.com for Sale :: Sedo.com

In effort to convince p2p'rs to continue donating and not to believe Loki's intent to sell, this is what the owner published in his defense:

Loki Torrent's Selling on Sedo.com :: Explanation
If some guy offers me $75K for the domain name, he's more than welcome to it, and I'll simply move the site to a different domain. Selling the entire site will never happen. I have way too much of myself in this site to sell it for any price (well, 2 million could get me to part with it, lol.. but let's live in reality).

3) The only reports of this so-called "law suit" are based entirely on the front page of the LokiTorrent.com internet site. The MPAA and Texas Federal Court list no public record of a lawsuit nor is the MPAA or the courts willing to back up Lokitorrent claims of being ordered to hand over webserver ip logs and pay a 1 million dollar penalty. J. Borland of News.com (and other related news resources) apparently based their entire news articles by information received directly from Mr. Ed Webber (the owner of LokiTorrent.com). This information was received by calling Mr. Webber directly at telephone number (207) 752-3481.

4) Was LokiTorrent ever actually sued by the MPAA? According to the initial reports published via various websites, most people were led to have believed that the torrent site was "surrendered" to the MPAA.

According to a recent News.com article, Loki was alledgedly sued in Dallas, Texas federal court. Besides the testimony of the owner of Lokitorrent, no other information, public or private, can be found to establish the veracity of that statement.

A quick search to Texas Court Records DOES NOT reveal any court appearances or cases filed on behalf of the MPAA and/or Edward Webber, owner of Loki Torrent.

If LokiTorrent.com had been sued in Dallas Federal Courts, then some type of public record would appear. NO ONLINE RECORD APPEARS WHATSOEVER! ( Texas Court Search Engine )

5) While writing this report, a quick WHOIS for the ownership information of LokiTorrent.com reveals the following info:
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   Domain Name: lokitorrent.com  IP:  216.32.85.114

   Administrative Contact, Billing Contact, Technical Contact:
      Webber, E admin@webbsense.com
      WebbSense
      PO Box 7662
      Portland, ME 04112
      US
      Phone: +1.2077523481
Why would Edward Webber of LokiTorrent.com still appear as "owner" and "administrator" of Loki Torrent if in fact the MPAA had taken over the site?

Edward Webber is still in full control of Lokitorrent.com. As evidence, I submit the fact that Webbsense.com and Mufftorrent.com
(two additional domains that are registered to Edward Webber) are still ONLINE, and the ping traceroute traffic is directed to the same exact machine lokitorrent.com is hosted on (i.e. 216.32.85.114).

A fast ping / traceroute to the MPAA's official website reveals the hosting IP address MPAA.ORG (the official MPAA Site) to be 66.252.129.187 while the IP address of Lokitorrent.com is 216.32.85.114. In other words, the MPAA and LOKITORRENT are hosted at 2 different hosting locations several thousands of miles apart.

Loki Torrent is not hosted on the MPAA's network, thus the front page warning p2p'rs against file sharing currently posted at LOKITORRENT.COM is a HOAX. Lokitorrent.com is hosted in Washington DC at the ISP "SAWIS" while the MPAA is hosted just South of Glendale, California by Ware.Net

6) In there ongoing efforts to prevent file sharing, The RIAA / MPAA have become notorious for publishing the names and addresses of file shares and webmasters who they sue. The MPAA has not mentioned one single word in any public news release. Official MPAA Internet Site :: Press Releases

While writing this article, it soon became very apparent that besides Ed Webber's claim to have been sued by the MPAA, there is absolutely no public evidence to back up or substantiate his claims. No court records, no MPAA publicity news releases, no federal judge's name on court orders, etc. All we have to go on is Lokitorrent.com hosting a front page "scare tactic" website that Ed Webber hosts on his personal servers. Ed Webber is paying for the bandwidth on behalf of the MPAA? Nah, that doesn't even sound right. Ed Webber allowed the MPAA to re-design his website and then host LokiTorrent as if its a anti p2p site on his own servers? Nah, that doesnt even make sense.

The fact that Lokitorrent.com is still registered under the name Ed Webber and the fact that this and other torrent sites under his name are still hosted on his personal machines have convinced the best of us that this is nothing more than a dirty hoax and that nothing was confisquated or surrendered.

As one top Texas lawyer kindly put it "Dallas courts have no presidence in this case because Lokitorrent.com was never hosted on Texas ISP servers. The owner of Lokitorrent is not a resident of Texas, and the MPAA's main offices are not in Texas. The MPAA has no reason in the world to sue in Dallas, but even if they did have presidence and sued in Dallas, you can be sure that the due dilligence on a case like this would take years. No way in the world could the MPAA have won a court case of this magnitude in just one month"

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2005-02-24 04:06pm

I was wondering about that. That silly MPAA page comes up and I'm like "wtf? h4x"

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2005-02-24 04:20pm

I'm gonna head over to Slyck and ZeroPaid and see what they say...

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2005-02-24 04:25pm

A torrent webmaster claims he's being sued, collects tens of thousands in donations, then a fake frontpage shows it's been shutdown?

I smell rat...

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2005-02-24 04:26pm

wow. so it seems that lokitorrent's cash gathering frenzy for a "legal battle" was most likely a con job. i should be surprised, but. . .nah.

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2005-02-24 04:48pm

If it's true, I must say it was a brilliant scam. Nobody doubted for a second loki was being sued by the MPAA. Webber masterfully played on people's fears.

I salute his evil cunning.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2005-02-24 06:54pm

No, it is not a hoax. The MPAA has an Word document about it and there are public court records on the matter. It looks like the person crying foul about this doesn't know how to research.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-02-24 07:54pm

SirNitram wrote:A torrent webmaster claims he's being sued, collects tens of thousands in donations, then a fake frontpage shows it's been shutdown?

I smell rat...

I smell a genius. Do something that serves many, many people for free, then act like you're going to be shut down to collect a fortune in money...

The guy's a genius. An evil genius that should be in front of a firing squad, perhaps, but still a genius