Souping up a Trek Ship, Wars style.

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2005-08-29 08:06pm

OK not sure if this is a Trek thread or a Wars thread, perhaps should be in both. Here goes.

Your a wealthy StarWars Merchant with a fancy for collecting rare Starships. One day a random wormhole opens up and spits out an empty StarTrek deralict.

What Trek ship would you want to have souped with the best StarWars has to offer and what fancy extras would you put in?

Note, this is not/should not be about bashing Trek enginnering or making fun of 'exploding warp cores' But basiccly about picking a cool looking Trek ship and and 'pimping it out' as it where...

Me? I would actually choose an 'Intrepid' class ship. Despite it being spawned in one of Treks worse show, the ship itself is tight, compact and pretty spiffy looking. At 350 meters it's just the size of some of Wars smaller Cruisers and out fitted with some heavy duty shields and some light Turbolasers would make a rather comftable Cruz-Mobil

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-08-29 08:09pm

Sovereign-class craft. Add a little tasteful chrome on top of a dark paintjob, hyperdrive engines, a primo power plant, a few light turbolasers (discreetly concealed, of course), proton-torpedo launchers instead of photon torpedoes (but keep the stern launcher around, the visitors will enjoy some occasional fireworks shows

). Hmm... Oh yes, and a spinner on the deflector dish

Quadlok · Post by **Quadlok** » 2005-08-29 08:11pm

A Romulan Warbird. Its big, its cool looking, and it would make a hell of a bulk carrier with some magnetic shields installed in its voidspace. Fit two heavy turbolaser turrets where the main disruptor banks were and a small scale superlaser in the bow, and you've got a decent warship to boot.

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2005-08-29 08:16pm

Elheru Aran wrote:Hmm... Oh yes, and a spinner on the deflector dish

((imagines a deflectordish with a massive chrome spinner))
[homer]Your ideas intriegue me and I wish to subsrcibe to your newsletter [/homer]
Also, I never thought about the Rom-Warbird as a Bulk Carrier, but considering all that empty space, you could haul a LOT of cargo with that thing.

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba · Post by **Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba** » 2005-08-29 10:09pm

The Ent-A. Stick a 0.5 Hyperdrive in it, replace all phaser banks and photon torpedo launchers with Light Turbolasers and Proton Torpedo launchers respectively, and I have a unique luxury-boat for myself.

Also, the Ent-E. Same idea, but it looks spiffier.

And the NX-01. Sure, everyone hates the series, but it could make quite a nice personal yacht.

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... Oh, and really, a Borg Cube could be turned into a pretty awesome warship or even freighter. It's far bigger than an ISD, and it has some nice tech in it you might even want to keep.

Sharpshooter · Post by **Sharpshooter** » 2005-08-29 10:14pm

Ah, the Intrepid - large enough to be able to do some heavy work, but small enough to be practical and feasable for one man and his minions, and with the perfect elongation of the saucer.

* First things first, I'm going to rip out most of the standard controls and put in something a bit more direct and simple in function: for weapons control, I employ a virtual immersion ball turret of sorts, which'll let me orient several weapons emplacements to fire on a single point, and smack-dab between the two of 'em, I put the navigator's station. HOTAS system for sub-light transit, plus the nessecary controls for locking in cordinates for anything beyond the pilot's capacity to handle. Behind and to the sides, the other needed stations, and between those two of the second row, a tactical and communications projection array.

* For armorments, I scrap the phaser banks and instead put a good twenty to thirty solid weapon emplacements at strategic points across the hull - I'm thinking retractable high-speed gatling-style laser cannons and turbolaser banks, gimball-mounted with full 360 by 180 rotation and elevation, tying them in to the two aforementioned weapons pods so my weapons operaters can concentrate fire as is needed, as well as the combat computer and its back-up so it can deal with stuff on its own if nessecary. The photorps are out and replaced by protons, naturally, but I'll also look into something a bit more unusual and elaborate for dealing with fighter swarms - maybe some NISAMCD (Nigh-Infinately-Stocked Anime Missile Cloud of Death) launchers.

On second thought, I'll leave a few phaser banks left at strategic points across the hull - provided we can get the targetting system to work right, they could probably work really well as anti-ordinance weapons. That, and I need something which could be used for mining and drilling and the standard guns won't be able to do that.

* I give the hull a nice coat or two of paint - I figure a gold main with blue trim, my usual color scheme. Black would be strategic and all, but I'd not like to risk some half-blind idiot flying straight into me.

* I muck around with the cargo holds and hangers, integrate holographic, replicator and transporter systems, and turn them into production workships of considerable scale. If I can find any crap floating in space that I can salvage, I can drag it into one of the bays and then use the integrated systems to break it down into its basic componants, finally using the replicator systems to produce stuff I want (or at least the parts, at which point I then employ holographic workers and equipment to assemble my desired object). A few days of consultation with the computers, and I get a nice, shiney Pyro-GL fighter, twinked out with all sorts of technological goodies fap fap fap

* And speaking of the Swiss Army Dish, I can't help but remember a nice idea Einhander (I THINK it's his, anyway) had for it, back in the "what crazy-ass stuff would you do with your ship" thread in OSF: I tinker around with the dish so it's transmitting loud, chest-pounding music to every ship nearby, progressively increasing the volume as another ship approaches, and maybe also throw in a doo-dad that somehow causes audio-synced resonences and shockwaves to strike ships within close proximity, jarring them as I go screaming by.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2005-08-29 11:09pm

Sovie, refitted as a personal luxury yacht. Replace all the pop-up photorp launchers with quadlasers, replace the quantorp turret and primary bridge with heavy turbolasers, load up point-defense batteries where the phaser arrays used to be, and replace the conventional photorp launchers with plain missile launchers.

Run stuff from a battle bridge, refit the hull with SW grade materials and technology, and keep it's semi-chrome aztec hull pattern.

Oh, and bigass laser cannons inside the warp nacelles that shoot out from the bussard collectors. It's not like I'll be using the warp drive.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2005-08-29 11:14pm

Defient; small enough to be a private transport, large enough to have 'living' room. Slap some Corellian gimbals and cannons on her, add an Actis instead of shuttle pods, and a hyperdrive.

Morilore · Post by **Morilore** » 2005-08-29 11:46pm

The Bobbyprise is actually one of my favorite Trek ships, both because of its design and what Knife pointed out about the Defiant. It's like a Trek ship, minus frills - just a simple geometric saucer with two engine nacelles out the back.

I'd just do what I have to do to get it hyperdrive, quadlasers instead of "phase cannons," and decent shields and hull armor.

The Guid · Post by **The Guid** » 2005-08-29 11:59pm

The Holoships as seen in ST:Insurrection.... Leisure Cruisers here we come!

Prometheus class as well, I love the splitting gimmick.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-08-30 12:27am

Sharpshooter wrote: * And speaking of the Swiss Army Dish, I can't help but remember a nice idea Einhander (I THINK it's his, anyway) had for it, back in the "what crazy-ass stuff would you do with your ship" thread in OSF: I tinker around with the dish so it's transmitting loud, chest-pounding music to every ship nearby, progressively increasing the volume as another ship approaches, and maybe also throw in a doo-dad that somehow causes audio-synced resonences and shockwaves to strike ships within close proximity, jarring them as I go screaming by.

This? http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=67980

Drunk Monkey · Post by **Drunk Monkey** » 2005-08-30 08:28am

A Reman war bird. I would replace all the disruptors with heavy turbo lasers. The tecnobabble radiation will be replaced with a death star super gun. I’ll add a hyper drive and shields equivalent to that of an SSD, and last but not least add some fucking lights to the bridge.

Bounty · Post by **Bounty** » 2005-08-30 11:17am

An Intrepid. Compact yet still large enough for interior modifications, you can use it in space, in the air and underwater, it can land, has a large-ish shuttlebay, a detacheable yacht...

Just a few parts swaps here and there - those nacelles have to go - and a good paintjob is all you need to have a great personal pleasure cruiser.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-08-30 11:52am

Wait. Underwater?

Bounty · Post by **Bounty** » 2005-08-30 12:06pm

Elheru Aran wrote:Wait. Underwater?

The Intrepid-class is canonically capable of operating underwater up to depths of 600 km.

You can thank the Bermaga for wanting to do a submarine epsiode

http://uk.geocities.com/chakoteya/S5/508.htm

RIGA: The ocean's losing containment. Hydro-volume has decreased more than seven percent in the last year alone.
JANEWAY: Any idea what's causing it?
RIGA: No. To make a thorough study we'd need to explore the ocean centre where I believe the gravitational currents are fluctuating.
PARIS: But that's more that six hundred kilometres deep.
RIGA: Our best research vessel can only go one hundred kilometres. Beyond that the pressure's too great.
PARIS: Well, we could take you there. Captain?

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PARIS: Captain, with a few simple thruster modifications to the Delta Flyer, she will be seaworthy in no time.
JANEWAY: Good. It'd take at least a week to make the necessary modifications to Voyager.
PARIS: Then it's my mission?
JANEWAY: Bon voyage.

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-08-30 12:06pm

The uberwank Warship of Voyager outfitted with SW weaponry would be a fine flagship letting me oppress the galaxy at my pleasure.
Also it wouldn't make people think that i'm "compensating"

(DS2,Eclipse, sovereign class ships etc...)

Post by **NecronLord** » 2005-08-30 12:16pm

Wrong forum. Moving.

Dakarne · Post by **Dakarne** » 2005-08-30 01:58pm

Let's see...

Take a Sovereign... take notes of the general placement of everything and hull geometry. Then take a turbolaser and blow it up. Now, I can begin making a newer ship in its image.

Let's see...
Replace the Phasers with Retractable Turbolaser Turrets...
Replace the Engines with Uberwanked 0.2 Hyperdrive Engines...
Replace the Impulse Engines with Ion Engines...
Replace the Warp Core with a Hypermatter Reactor...
Replace the Hull Plating with Durasteel and Quantum Armour...
Replace the Swiss Army Navigational Deflector with a large Hangar Bay...
Replace the Shielding System with something a bit better...
Put it in Navy Plue with Azure Neons and Golden Nacelle Grilles...
Install Surround Sound on every single deck and play Nu-Metal...
Replace the Internal Security Squads with a Few Magnaguards...

And that's about it.

Bounty · Post by **Bounty** » 2005-08-30 02:01pm

Install Surround Sound on every single deck and play Nu-Metal...

I think it already has that...

At least, I don't recall ever seeing the speakers when someone's listening to music.

Perseid · Post by **Perseid** » 2005-08-30 02:57pm

Defiant class, small enough to not be considered a threat but large enough to do some great modding.

Start with switching the Quantum Torp launchers for Proton Torps
Switch the pulse phasers for medium turbolasers
Impulse drive for Ion drive
Warp core for Hypermatter reactor
0.5 hyperdrive
Outfit with Stardestroyer armour, ala Millenium Falcon. Or if i can get hold of enough switch to Quantum Armour
Outfit with most powerful shields available
Get rid of the space in the upper and lower decks to make space for retractable Turbolaser turrets, both light(point defence) guns and medium guns
Strip out the standard Trek control surfaces and put in the standard Wars ship controls
Metallic blue paint job
Clear any extra space thats not needed for the small crew that would be required for a decent sized cargo system, and keep the transporters but only use them for cargo

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2005-08-30 08:33pm

I restore it as best I can to its original condition and put it on display as an alien artifact/example of primitive shipbuilding. Bringing a Trek ship up to Wars standards would be like trying to turn a Viking longboat into a modern combat warship.

Anomie · Post by **Anomie** » 2005-08-30 10:12pm

Now do we have to keep everything analogous, like ion drives where impulse drives are, weapons where phasers are, reactors where warp cores are? If that's the case, you probably don't want anything from the Federation, with maybe the exception of the Defiant, Prometheus, and Constallation classes. With those nacelles as easy targets, it would be to easy to lose your hyperdrive. The Defiant on the other hand has its nacelles encased in armor and the Prometheus and Constallation classes have two sets of nacelles, good redundancy. Good ships to use would be Cardasian, Breen, and even Kazon vessels. No exposed nacelles.

Of course, if you could put the systems anywhere you want, what I just said is rendered irrelevent.

I would take a Defiant and strip the interior. In place of the pulse cannons, put in foward firing heavy turbolasers, and proton torpedos or concussion missles in place of the photon torpedos, and hidden behind slideing panels have point defense lasers and a several light turbolasers.

The warp core would be replaced with either a solar ionization reactor if they come that small or the most powerful powercore that would fit.

The shuttle bay would be expanded to house two shuttles and a pair of fighters.

Replace the superstructer, armor, and shields with military grade alloys and shields, slap on a class one hyperdrive, heavyduty ion engines and install a mostly droid crew and you have one hell of a personal convaence.

wilfulton · Post by **wilfulton** » 2005-08-31 12:45am

I would take a GCS and land it rather permanently at some spaceport as a tourist trap. And I would replace the crew quarters with hotel rooms, and in the center of the saucer I would install a 21-m woofer. That way if any debt collectors or what have you come a-knocking, they'll a get a 300 dB welcoming gift.

Vanas · Post by **Vanas** » 2005-09-01 02:53pm

I like the Akira, so we'll start with that. Crank up the shielding, swap out the torpedo launchers for Turbolasers, bung in an acceptable engine and reactor combo, Leave the phasers, for pinpoint targeting of random people on a planet. (Nothin' lethal. Just enough to make them twitch wildly and scream) Add a few (retractable) turreted Ion cannons and turbolasers for the principle of the thing and convert the deflector dish into either the most powerful search/strobelight the universe has ever seen, or a very big gun.
Take the Nacelles. We won't be needing them any more. Stripout the technobabble gubbins within, and make the glowing blue top retractable. Insert a few turrets and sheild generators. Sell all technobabble gubbins to gullible collectors.
Finally, I decree the ship's carpet shall be deep-pile and my chair be detachable, fitted with repulsor lifts and cabable of being flown by remote control.
As for the paintjob, I dunno. I like gunmetal grey as it is.

NRS Guardian · Post by **NRS Guardian** » 2005-09-02 12:51am

I'd take a Klingon Vor'cha.
Reinforce its structure and armor.
Put in a decent reactor, engines, and class 2 hyperdrive.
Add better shields.
Mount turbolasers from a Marauder Corvette on the mandibles and where the warp nacelles used to be.
Mount a turbolaser from an SPHA-T where the main disruptor used to be.
Stick a couple proton torpedo launchers in the wings.
Add some more lights.
Weld a bridge from a Loronar Strike Cruiser on where that triangular structure is where the neck connects with the engineering hull.
Finally, I'd paint it forest green with gold trim.