Hyperdrive + Phasing Cloak

[Enola Straight]

It is a given that one must use a navicomputer to calculate a trajectory through hyper in order to avoid collisions with mass shadows.

If a phaseing cloak was available to the GFFA...and there were no undesirable interactions with mass shadows in hyper...how would the two techs improve things?

[Ghost Rider]

Phase cloak has definitly shown to be effected by gravity.

[Knife]

It is a given that one must use a navicomputer to calculate a trajectory through hyper in order to avoid collisions with mass shadows.

If a phaseing cloak was available to the GFFA...and there were no undesirable interactions with mass shadows in hyper...how would the two techs improve things?

Honestly, past novelty, not much. The galaxy is well charted in SW. Han Solo, upon hastilly taking off and cruising into orbit, was able to get good coordinates from Tatooine (outer rim) to Alderaan (core) in just a few minutes. At a mininum, that's charting half way across the galaxy, dodging all stars, blackholes, large bodies.

At most, a phase cloak could shave off some of the routes a bit, but even still, in a civilization that can travel half way across the galaxy in a day, what's a few more hours?

[Noble Ire]

At most, a phase cloak could shave off some of the routes a bit, but even still, in a civilization that can travel half way across the galaxy in a day, what's a few more hours?

Assuming it did function in hyperspace, a phase cloak might make micro-jumps a more viable tactic in fleet engagements and retreats, even if it didn't work particularly well in any other capacity.

[Noble Ire]

Edit: I meant blind hyperspace jumps, although it still might aid in micros.

[The Vodka Vindicator]

Yes but what if combining the 2 leads to something like an explosion or the starship ending up in another dimension?

[NecronLord]

Phasing cloak isn't necesserily good enough to fly through a star at great speed without damage.

[Base Delta Zero]

Phasing cloak might not be that great for hyperdrive, as it's a rather exotic situation, but I think it might still be useful - a cloak that lets you see out, doesn't need Stygium crystals and lets you fly through things.

[Batman]

Phasing cloak might not be that great for hyperdrive, as it's a rather exotic situation, but I think it might still be useful - a cloak that lets you see out, doesn't need Stygium crystals and lets you fly through things.

What's so special about a cloak that lets you see out? And the ability to 'fly through things' is way overrated. Leaving alone the relative scarcity of situations where that would be useful in the first place, the extent to which the Phase Cloak can phase through what, and under which circumstances, is completely unknown. For all we know, the thing can't phase through anything denser than rock, and can only do so at rather slow relative speeds.

[bilateralrope]

Phasing cloak might not be that great for hyperdrive, as it's a rather exotic situation, but I think it might still be useful - a cloak that lets you see out, doesn't need Stygium crystals and lets you fly through things.

What's so special about a cloak that lets you see out?

Star Wars cloaks blind the cloaked ship

[NecronLord]

Star Wars cloaks blind the cloaked ship

No they don't. The model thrawn used do. There are other types that don't. What's more, cloaking devices aren't that new or rare - the Trade Federation had a cloaked doughnut ship pre-TPM.

[Noble Ire]

Star Wars cloaks blind the cloaked ship

No they don't. The model thrawn used do. There are other types that don't - the Trade Federation had a cloaked doughnut ship.

I seem to recall that that model is very rare, and expensive to contstruct, disappearing after around the fall of the Republic due to the exhaustion of known Stygium crystal deposits.

By the way, what was the cloaked Lucrehulk in?

[NecronLord]

I seem to recall that that model is very rare, and expensive to contstruct, disappearing after around the fall of the Republic due to the exhaustion of known Stygium crystal deposits.

Super-expensive, yes, but not too expensive for a big organisation like the Republic, Empire or Trade Fed to afford

By the way, what was the cloaked Lucrehulk in?

Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter - The trade-fed battleship in the opening has a cloaking device of some kind.

[Base Delta Zero]

I seem to recall that that model is very rare, and expensive to contstruct, disappearing after around the fall of the Republic due to the exhaustion of known Stygium crystal deposits.

Super-expensive, yes, but not too expensive for a big organisation like the Republic, Empire or Trade Fed to afford

Thing is, Stygium crystals aren't just rare, there aren't any anymore. The only planet with them has been mined dry, and they deteriorate quickly with use.

And the ability to 'fly through things' is way overrated. Leaving alone the relative scarcity of situations where that would be useful in the first place,

Funny, I thought it sure would have been useful in the Hoth asteroid field... and Geonisis... and all those other insanely dense belts.

[Batman]

And the ability to 'fly through things' is way overrated. Leaving alone the relative scarcity of situations where that would be useful in the first place,

Funny, I thought it sure would have been useful in the Hoth asteroid field... and Geonisis... and all those other insanely dense belts.

All those other insanely dense belts being?
You just presented tiny fractions of two solar systems out of-how many billions again?

[Solauren]

Also, the Genosis field, as it's been pointed out, may have been 'constructed' by the Seperatists for mining of materials to build the battle droid army.

[Base Delta Zero]

You just presented tiny fractions of two solar systems out of-how many billions again?

Well, two systems out of about a dozen we've actually seen, dense belts may be more common in the SW galaxy for some reason, but point taken.

[Ender]

Phase cloak has definitly shown to be effected by gravity.

but it won't interact with the mass, making it a null issue.

[Steel]

Cloaking + Hyperdrive doesnt seem to be a terribly good mix, if the end cutscene of TIE fighter is considered canon. The new type of cloak developed there was fine in normal space, but exploded once the ship tried to jump to hyperspace.

[Doctor Doom]

But in one of the Rogue Squadron novels (unfortunately I forget which one, someone with more knowledge of the EU would know), a cloaked ship makes the jump to hyperspace while cloaked. Admittedly, if I remember that novel correctly the type of cloaking device used was entirely new. It was a Super Star Destroyer that made the jump (I want to say it was the Lusankya, but I really don't remember), and it used the cloak as a cover. In fact, it shielded the jump to hyperspace so well that everyone thought the ship was destroyed (after the ship jumped the Imperials created a fake explosion and rubble in its wake or something, the novel wasn't entirely clear).

[Ace Pace]

But in one of the Rogue Squadron novels (unfortunately I forget which one, someone with more knowledge of the EU would know), a cloaked ship makes the jump to hyperspace while cloaked. Admittedly, if I remember that novel correctly the type of cloaking device used was entirely new. It was a Super Star Destroyer that made the jump (I want to say it was the Lusankya, but I really don't remember), and it used the cloak as a cover. In fact, it shielded the jump to hyperspace so well that everyone thought the ship was destroyed (after the ship jumped the Imperials created a fake explosion and rubble in its wake or something, the novel wasn't entirely clear).

Solo Command, it was never cloaked, it was hidden using a massive collection of sattalites that blocked all EM radiation from leaving the area.

[Doctor Doom]

Ah, my mistake. Scratch my last post, then.

[montypython]

Cloaking + Hyperdrive doesnt seem to be a terribly good mix, if the end cutscene of TIE fighter is considered canon. The new type of cloak developed there was fine in normal space, but exploded once the ship tried to jump to hyperspace.

I believe that one was sabotaged.

[Isolder74]

Cloaking + Hyperdrive doesnt seem to be a terribly good mix, if the end cutscene of TIE fighter is considered canon. The new type of cloak developed there was fine in normal space, but exploded once the ship tried to jump to hyperspace.

I believe that one was sabotaged.

it was a design flaw

[Elheru Aran]

The cloak in Rebel Assault II was a decent one-- its primary problem was it was unstable in the TIE Phantom fighters. Functioned just fine on the Super Star Destroyer and the moon base constructing the fighters, though. However, it was most probably experiemental-- probably the fighter cloak was extrapolated from the SSD cloak, and its instability in the smaller size was due to power supply issues. Also, we never see that cloak again after the SSD and base go blooey, so obviously copies weren't stored elsewhere or anything.