Orcs versus Romans

white_rabbit · Post by **white_rabbit** » 2002-12-23 04:30pm

4 Legions including auxiliaries, compentantly led versus an equivalent force of Orcs.

The Orcs are led by the Black Orc Warlord Morglum Necksnapper and thus there is an appropriate density of black orcs in the hoard.

WAAAAAAAAA MORGLUM!

irishmick79 · Post by **irishmick79** » 2002-12-23 04:39pm

Can't we just make this topic a sticky until the lord of the rings furor dies down? I think we've got three or four similar threads going on.....

But in answer to your question, if the Romans are equipped with all the period weaponry they could ever ask for, the Legionnares completely destroy the orc army. If the Romans are simpley armed with broadswords, shields and arrows then it gets interesting. The tight discipline of the romans would prove to be a decisive advantage against the unorganized orcish hordes.

white_rabbit · Post by **white_rabbit** » 2002-12-23 04:43pm

irishmick79 wrote:Can't we just make this topic a sticky until the lord of the rings furor dies down? I think we've got three or four similar threads going on.....

But in answer to your question, if the Romans are equipped with all the period weaponry they could ever ask for, the Legionnares completely destroy the orc army. If the Romans are simpley armed with broadswords, shields and arrows then it gets interesting. The tight discipline of the romans would prove to be a decisive advantage against the unorganized orcish hordes.

Why ?

This has nothing to do with LOTR

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2002-12-23 05:12pm

Legion > Orcs.

The Roman Legions were one of the most disiplined military on the face of the Earth (they were number one back then). Soldiers normally carried like three days worth of food during times of war (of course they probably had supply wagons nearby for the long campaigns).

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2002-12-23 06:18pm

Considering that a Roman army can take most medieval armies of similar size, I'd say the Romans take the cake here.

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2002-12-23 06:24pm

Not only would roman war machines thin out the orcish ranks but the archers would as well.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-12-23 06:37pm

As well as the pilum throwing legionares

white_rabbit · Post by **white_rabbit** » 2002-12-23 06:38pm

Next of Kin wrote:Not only would roman war machines thin out the orcish ranks but the archers would as well.

plenty of Orc war machines, Trebuchet style boulder launchers, giant flying goblins, plus Warbeasts like Wyvverns to take out roman war engines.

And the Orcs dont exactly have a shortage of their own archers, plus their own heavily armoured highly disciplined infantry.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-12-23 07:36pm

This is going to be amazingly close. It will be a true slaughter.

Roman war machines have the great range, but are countered by nasty Wyverns. - Orcs

Orc War Machines are massively variable in effectiveness, but when they work... Goddamn do they work. - Orcs

Roman Cav will be completely fucked up by massed night goblin archers, and even if they get close fanatics will utterly decimate them. Wolf riders and boar infantry will similarly be countered by Roman archers. Stalemate.

Roman infantry is much better organised and trained, but are no match in terms of strength or numbers, especially for black orks. Stalemate

This is damn close. Too close to call. What special units do the Orcs have (squig hoppers etc) and do they have Shamans?

white_rabbit · Post by **white_rabbit** » 2002-12-23 07:52pm

I would assume at least one or two Shamans, Gobbo or Orcish.

Great for smashing those nice neat formations into shattered piles of flesh and metal.

Im not sure Squig hoppers will be as effective, although they too would make great line smashers, as would fanatics

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2002-12-23 10:05pm

plus their own heavily armoured highly disciplined infantry.

Try slapping on the heaviest of armours..can you move around and fight with any degree of agility? No. Roman soldiers are protected by their large shields and their whort swords are particularly useful to get in close and stab the enemy. For a heavily armoured enemy, stab at the weak spots in the armour --the neck and the arm pits.

white_rabbit · Post by **white_rabbit** » 2002-12-24 09:52am

Next of Kin wrote:
plus their own heavily armoured highly disciplined infantry.
Try slapping on the heaviest of armours..can you move around and fight with any degree of agility? No. Roman soldiers are protected by their large shields and their whort swords are particularly useful to get in close and stab the enemy. For a heavily armoured enemy, stab at the weak spots in the armour --the neck and the arm pits.

Yes actually, Ive worn the whole full body armour, its bloody heavy, but you can still perform some suprisingly agile feats in it.

be to be honest, your point is a little off, these are Black Orcs, and Orc Big Uns, stronger and tougher than a human at the best of times, those nice roman shields will be introduced to the sharp end of an orcish blade...as will the romans.

Getting in close with an armoured orc is essentially a brilliant way to get killed.

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2002-12-24 10:13am

be to be honest, your point is a little off, these are Black Orcs, and Orc Big Uns, stronger and tougher than a human at the best of times, those nice roman shields will be introduced to the sharp end of an orcish blade...as will the romans.

Okay, even I'm not blind...if the large shock troops are used then they have the strength advantage.

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2002-12-24 11:03pm

Black Orcs, and Orc Big Uns, stronger and tougher than a human at the best of times

The Romans were at a size disadvantage with the Germanic Barbarians, and the barbarians much like the orcs will have the strength and size. Still the Romans have better tactics, equipment, and logistics.