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Warships of the Ducal Republic of Nowy Krakow (Space Poland)

Posted: 2005-02-15 05:51pm
by Thirdfain
First, the capital ships. From top to bottom:
Wladyslaw Sikorski-class Dreadnought, Tadeusz Kosciuszko-class Dreadnought, Swoboda (Liberty)-class Fast Battleship

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Second, the cruisers. Starting second from top, ending second from bottom (other vessels for size comparison)
Szpada (Sword) -class Protected Cruiser, Strzelec (Archer)-class Guided Missile Cruiser, Burza (Storm)- class Fast Cruiser

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Finally, the Escorts. Starting second from top, ending at bottom. The battleship is for size comparison.
Blyskawica (Lightning)- class Destroyer, Orzel (Eagle)- class Guided Missile Destroyer, Gdansk (Danzig)- class Frigate, Zbik (Wildcat)- class Escort Frigate.

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This is my second experiment in Paint. I feel like the designs improve as they go, with the DNs being the worst. Thoughts?

Posted: 2005-02-15 06:25pm
by Sea Skimmer
Interesting looking, will they be fighting Space Cossacks and the distant Empire of Pan Stellar Sweden?

Posted: 2005-02-15 06:35pm
by Darth Fanboy
Where's the screen door :wink:

Posted: 2005-02-15 07:47pm
by Thirdfain
Darth Fanboy wrote:Where's the screen door :wink:

Ooooh, you asshole. I hate Polish jokes. Never before has a nation which has fought so hard against such odds, with such valour, been so maligned...

Please, reserve your disdain for the Space French. Pussies.

Posted: 2005-02-15 08:09pm
by darthdavid
Good stuff. Never seen space poland before. Oh and since I'm half polish I geuss I can make one teensy poland joke. What's the difference between Russian and Polish roulette? Polish roulette is played with a semi-automatic pistol.

Posted: 2005-02-15 08:12pm
by Thirdfain
Sea Skimmer wrote:Interesting looking, will they be fighting Space Cossacks and the distant Empire of Pan Stellar Sweden?
Well, there are Space Russians to contend with, but never fear! I benefit fro the protection of the Space Pope :)

Posted: 2005-02-15 08:17pm
by Beowulf
Thirdfain wrote:
Darth Fanboy wrote:Where's the screen door :wink:

Ooooh, you asshole. I hate Polish jokes. Never before has a nation which has fought so hard against such odds, with such valour, been so maligned...

Please, reserve your disdain for the Space French. Pussies.
Right. *Begins mocking the TSC*

Posted: 2005-02-15 08:35pm
by Rogue 9
Beowulf wrote:
Thirdfain wrote:
Darth Fanboy wrote:Where's the screen door :wink:

Ooooh, you asshole. I hate Polish jokes. Never before has a nation which has fought so hard against such odds, with such valour, been so maligned...

Please, reserve your disdain for the Space French. Pussies.
Right. *Begins mocking the TSC*
:lol: Thirdfain, you soooo set yourself up for that.

Posted: 2005-02-15 08:36pm
by Thirdfain
Who's saying I wasn't planning it?

Posted: 2005-02-15 08:43pm
by Rogue 9
Of course you were. I know better than to think you'd do something like that if it didn't serve your purposes somehow. :P

Posted: 2005-02-16 09:59am
by fgalkin
Thirdfain wrote:
Darth Fanboy wrote:Where's the screen door :wink:

Ooooh, you asshole. I hate Polish jokes. Never before has a nation which has fought so hard against such odds, with such valour, been so maligned...

Please, reserve your disdain for the Space French. Pussies.
Those ships are just begging to get their asses kicked by the Space Russians and Space Germans. :twisted:

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Posted: 2005-02-16 11:38am
by SyntaxVorlon
Or some, oh I don't know:
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KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!

Posted: 2005-02-16 12:05pm
by Thirdfain
So, any thoughts on the designs? Critiques? Suggestions? Ships you like in particular? Complaints about my usage of the Polish flag as a major hull decoration?

Posted: 2005-02-16 12:09pm
by Alyrium Denryle
Well, I have to say Ball turrets that get better barrel elevation and depression would have been better. Seeing as you have massive blind spots in weapons coverage...

Posted: 2005-02-16 12:19pm
by Rogue 9
Quite massive.

Posted: 2005-02-16 01:18pm
by Col. Crackpot
Rogue 9 wrote:Quite massive.
dude, it's the Polish Navy. Just be glad the guns don't fire inward.

Posted: 2005-02-16 01:22pm
by Thirdfain
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WTF are you talking about? The ship can't bear all guns in one direction (With the exception of forewards, in most cases) but they all have full 360 spherical degree coverage by at *least* half their turrets, and the missile pods and torpedo tubes, which are the majority of the firepower, are all pretty much 360 spherical as well.

Posted: 2005-02-16 07:03pm
by Rogue 9
I'm talking about how yeah, your guns are spaced 90 degrees around and that's dandy and all, but they can't depress so far as to get full 360 degree coverage, especially in close.

Posted: 2005-02-16 07:31pm
by Sea Skimmer
Thirdfain wrote:

Ooooh, you asshole. I hate Polish jokes. Never before has a nation which has fought so hard against such odds, with such valour, been so maligned...

Please, reserve your disdain for the Space French. Pussies.
How do you stop a Polish tank?

Shoot the people who are pushing it

Posted: 2005-02-16 10:28pm
by Thirdfain
Rogue 9 wrote:I'm talking about how yeah, your guns are spaced 90 degrees around and that's dandy and all, but they can't depress so far as to get full 360 degree coverage, especially in close.
Any sort of realist space combat takes place at many tens or hundreds of kilometers distant. The blind spots are close enough to the hull that only fighters could get in them, and the ship has complete PP coverage.

Posted: 2005-02-17 01:12pm
by Deathstalker
Poles in SPAAAAACE!

The potential problem I see is that some of the ships appear to be OGed (Over-gunned). However I don't know what type of weapons the ships mount, or how much power they can generate. If you have answers then it is not a big deal.

Posted: 2005-02-17 02:08pm
by Thirdfain
Deathstalker wrote: The potential problem I see is that some of the ships appear to be OGed (Over-gunned). However I don't know what type of weapons the ships mount, or how much power they can generate. If you have answers then it is not a big deal.
The guns are all particle beam cannon. My designs for the weapon mountings are, obviously, based on WW-2 era battleship turrets.

Posted: 2005-02-25 03:59pm
by Bob the Gunslinger
Thirdfain wrote:So, any thoughts on the designs? Critiques? Suggestions? Ships you like in particular? Complaints about my usage of the Polish flag as a major hull decoration?
They look like they could fit into the B5 universe. I like the functionality of them and the weapons placements, but the old WWII-style turrets are a little too anime for me. It almost makes it look like the ship is supposed to unlease a broadside on its enemies from inside 500 meters or something... Overall a very competent looking design that says "My ships aren't pretty, but they will kill you."

Posted: 2005-02-26 04:20am
by The Yosemite Bear
Yeah, how do they compare in size and arment to the Jews in Space "Battlestars of David"?

Posted: 2005-02-26 05:12am
by darthdavid
The Yosemite Bear wrote:Yeah, how do they compare in size and arment to the Jews in Space "Battlestars of David"?
Well I don't know how they compare, but I do know this, they're both working hard to, in a suprising twist of fate, commit genocide against/invade the territory of the space Nazis...