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Posted: 2005-08-01 04:26pm
by Lord Revan
Dakarne wrote:
wrong there always gonna be few fallen Jedi, so PT have exprerience with Force users, but no as skilled as the PT Sith.
Yeah, the Sith rule, to a point.

The only path I'd go down is Grey... it's free of both Dogma and Evil.
but it's also weaker then either side.

Posted: 2005-08-01 04:29pm
by Dakarne
but it's also weaker then either side.
Proof?

Posted: 2005-08-01 04:32pm
by Lord Revan
Dakarne wrote:
but it's also weaker then either side.
Proof?
there power/bonus called Dark/Light side mastery which you get only if you're fully dark/light.

Posted: 2005-08-01 04:37pm
by Dakarne
Gameplay Mechanics, not canon apparently :wink:

Posted: 2005-08-01 04:39pm
by Lord Revan
Dakarne wrote:Gameplay Mechanics, not canon apparently :wink:
off course it's non-canon, but in canon the grey choice is impossible.

Posted: 2005-08-01 04:44pm
by Dakarne
off course it's non-canon, but in canon the grey choice is impossible.
So Jolee Bindo shouldn't Exist within Continuity!

Posted: 2005-08-01 04:46pm
by Noble Ire
Lord Revan wrote:
Dakarne wrote:Gameplay Mechanics, not canon apparently :wink:
off course it's non-canon, but in canon the grey choice is impossible.
Thats not really true, but "gray" Jedi do typically end up falling to one side or the other. Still, "gray" Jedi can exist (Verger, Bindo, etc.)

Posted: 2005-08-01 04:56pm
by Dakarne
Thats not really true, but "gray" Jedi do typically end up falling to one side or the other. Still, "gray" Jedi can exist (Verger, Bindo, etc.)
You forgot the most likely choice of Revan (my Revan at least)

Posted: 2005-08-01 11:49pm
by Noble Ire
hilaryduff wrote:I don't accept anything as canon except the movies. No one but nerds read the books.
Wow.

I am astonished someone would be foolish enough to say something of that nature here.
Kind of funny actually. :lol:

Posted: 2005-08-01 11:52pm
by The Jazz Intern
Hilary, You just put a big target on yourself. Besides, we're all nerds here. Right? RIGHT!? (looks at other members as they back away) Wimps! :wink:

Posted: 2005-08-02 12:03am
by Civil War Man
Dakarne wrote:
off course it's non-canon, but in canon the grey choice is impossible.
So Jolee Bindo shouldn't Exist within Continuity!
Jolee Bindo is not neutral when it comes to the Force, as he does not agree with usage of the Dark Side. He's characterized as grey simply because he became disillusioned with the existing Jedi Order and left.
hilaryduff wrote:I don't accept anything as canon except the movies. No one but nerds read the books.
Are you George Lucas? No? Then what you accept or don't accept as Star Wars canon is meaningless.

Lucas was very specific about what gets accepted into the Star Wars continuity, and the books are included.

Posted: 2005-08-02 12:07am
by Sharpshooter
Great, a purist, and an insulting one at that. I'll bring the lumber and the stake.

Like it or not, the EU stands as canon. You know that big-ass tank that was in ROTS? Brought forth in the EU, under the moniker of Juggernaut. Palpatine being this bad-ass of bad-asses, able to hold himself against pretty much the best? EU. General Grievous? Yup - EU. If it's got the Lucas logo on it and it doesn't contradict any established material, it counts.

As for that "nerd" shot, I think I'll leave that to the board's service members and paragons of social activity and participation...

Posted: 2005-08-02 12:22am
by Ghost Rider
hilaryduff wrote:I don't accept anything as canon except the movies. No one but nerds read the books.
True, one requires a certain aggrerate brainpower to comprehend the written word. Something you have shown a distinct lack of.

As to the other part, since your personal opinion amounts to less then a pile of shit, I'll take word given by the people who create these things, whether you care to is your personal perogative, but if you wish to debate on anything in these matters, one should at least understand the rule that apply therein.

Posted: 2005-08-02 04:08am
by GeneralTacticus
Dakarne wrote:I suppose a Jedi could personally "Levitate" but not actually fly...

Darth Revan is seen levitating a few feet off the floor in Knights of the Old Republic while meditating.
If I'm recalling the right incident, that was during a training exercise meant specifically to strengthen Revan's connection to the Force. Thus, it would make sense to have the student doing something which is extremely energy-intensive, for the same reason that people lift weights to boost physical strength. However, the fact that Jedi can levitate when they want to doesn't mean they're going to do it all the time, any more than real people make a habit of carrying weights around.

EDIT: And unless you're Goerge Lucas in disguise, the fact that your preferred pesonality for Revan would or would not do a particular thing means diddly squat.

Posted: 2005-08-02 05:37pm
by Darth Yoshi
hilaryduff wrote:I don't accept anything as canon except the movies. No one but nerds read the books.
Um, you do realize that this is a board for a site built around the premise of how badly the Empire would kick the United Federation of Planets' ass, right? And how inherently "nerdy" such a concept is, right?

Anyway, most non-aligned Force adepts are in fact either Light with a smidgen of Dark powers or Dark with a smidgen of Light powers. I think it has to do with the concept of Light and Dark. Vergere can be considered an exception, because she rejected the concept of Light and Dark.

Posted: 2005-08-02 06:18pm
by Pint0 Xtreme
hilaryduff wrote:I don't accept anything as canon except the movies. No one but nerds read the books.
Your words are as shallow as your avatar.

Posted: 2005-08-02 09:08pm
by Darth Lucifer
Darth Yoshi wrote:I believe Mace Windu flies in the Clone Wars cartoon, but I don't think that really counts.
Sure it does, it's just on a lesser spot on the canon-scale. :wink:

The scene you refer to is the part after Asajj Ventress defeats a myriad of creatures in some arena. Dooku flies/levitates down from several stories. It appeared to cause him no strain whatsoever.

Posted: 2005-08-02 09:16pm
by Noble Ire
Sure it does, it's just on a lesser spot on the canon-scale.
The event itself is official, but Windu's jump is most likely an extreme exaggeration. Canonically, the entire Clone Wars series (at least the first twenty episodes) are a child's retelling of the events (that little kid who gives Windu a drink.)

Posted: 2005-08-03 12:26am
by Admiral Felire
The event itself is official, but Windu's jump is most likely an extreme exaggeration. Canonically, the entire Clone Wars series (at least the first twenty episodes) are a child's retelling of the events (that little kid who gives Windu a drink.)
Not that I don't believe you, but I was wondering where you saw this officially printed.

Posted: 2005-08-03 02:48am
by Kenoshi
Admiral Felire wrote:
The event itself is official, but Windu's jump is most likely an extreme exaggeration. Canonically, the entire Clone Wars series (at least the first twenty episodes) are a child's retelling of the events (that little kid who gives Windu a drink.)
Not that I don't believe you, but I was wondering where you saw this officially printed.
I wonder if that was a nod to the old Coca Cola ad where the kid gives his Coke to a football player.....

Posted: 2005-08-03 03:50am
by NecronLord
Jerec was able to fly for short periods in the Valley of the Jedi. As was Kyle Katarn later.

Posted: 2005-08-03 03:57am
by NecronLord
Kenoshi wrote:I wonder if that was a nod to the old Coca Cola ad where the kid gives his Coke to a football player.....
So say the commentries on my disk.

Posted: 2005-08-03 01:00pm
by Crazedwraith
NecronLord wrote:
Kenoshi wrote:I wonder if that was a nod to the old Coca Cola ad where the kid gives his Coke to a football player.....
So say the commentries on my disk.
To go completely off-topic but I didn't even notice Clone Wars had commentaries up until know. Not that I found the first one very interesting. The guy spent most of the time telling you what was happening on the screen and interspersing it with the word cool at random intervals.

Posted: 2005-08-03 08:28pm
by Lord Pounder
In the Courtship of Princess Leia, Luke Skywalker is able to float down from the sky after having his X-Wing shot out of the sky.

Posted: 2005-08-03 08:34pm
by Isolder74
well that's not quite the same but in that he also had levitated Prince Isolder and his fighter, Storm to the ground as well.

After all he wasn't fl;ying but falling with style :D :lol: