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phongn wrote:

Vendetta wrote:For a workstation or network terminal, they're useful, for a single user desktop (especially a games/internet PC, like mine), they are utterly irrelevant.

I do like RDP a lot, though (VNC is much slower). For those who don't have single-user machines, ACLs and Group Policy is a godsend.

I've had good luck with Ultra VNC. Here

Stick with pre-1.09 though. The newest version seems to have some problems installing itself as a service.

Dameware is also good because you can catalog a list of computers you have connections too. Makes the remote access we do at work much easier.

Shinova wrote:

Vendetta wrote:It does. Both versions of Windows XP support HT, as does Linux kernel 2.4.x onwards.
Windows 2000 and .NET server don't and won't.

I think the newest SP of Win2k supports hyperthreading.

Link 1, can't validate forum claims though.
Some other General Info.
Google, you are being difficult today.

Could someone please answer my question on page two?

Vendetta wrote:Windows 2000 and .NET server don't and won't.

Windows 2003 supports SMT. It'd be strange if Microsoft took that ability out.

Shinova wrote:I think the newest SP of Win2k supports hyperthreading.

W2K does not properly support SMT, as it sees two physical rather than logical processors.

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:How well does something like that work? I don't know if I frequently encounter that sort of problem (although I probably have...), but I'm both interested and slightly wary about just installing something like that.

Not very well, I find. The only real solution is to switch to an OS with competent memory management.

TheFeniX wrote:

phongn wrote:

Vendetta wrote:For a workstation or network terminal, they're useful, for a single user desktop (especially a games/internet PC, like mine), they are utterly irrelevant.

I do like RDP a lot, though (VNC is much slower). For those who don't have single-user machines, ACLs and Group Policy is a godsend.

I've had good luck with Ultra VNC. Here

I find any and all iterations of VNC rather slow. Useful tools to be sure - their cross platform support is excellent - but the mechanism in which it transfers data is inherently slow. RDP is much faster.

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:How well does something like that work? I don't know if I frequently encounter that sort of problem (although I probably have...), but I'm both interested and slightly wary about just installing something like that.

They just prolong the inevitable. 9x/ME's memory management leaves much to be desired.

Lord Poe wrote:Thanks for the info, Vertigo1!

Not a problem dude. I'm only an ICQ msg away if you want anything.

Vertigo1 wrote:

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:How well does something like that work? I don't know if I frequently encounter that sort of problem (although I probably have...), but I'm both interested and slightly wary about just installing something like that.

They just prolong the inevitable. 9x/ME's memory management leaves much to be desired.

They don't even work that well anyways. They just force some stuff to be paged or unpaged with the user none the wiser.

Shinova wrote:

ggs wrote:(My old Win98se box I reformated & installed win2k on it. That was fun, the BIOS didn support booting from CD...)

For others with this problem, there's a bootdisk creation utility on the win2k CD, and you can download the boot disk creation utility for WinXP from the internet.

I didnt know that.

I d/l a DOS boot disk, loaded that onto the hdd (after refomating). Then installed win2k over the DOS install. Then I had to manuelly clean up the crap left over from the DOS.

No biggy, only added an extra hour or so to the time it took to install it.

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:

GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:Yeah, that's one of the biggest problems with Windows ME. It has a memory leak the size of a small nation. Which meant that whenever a program ran, not all the memory it used was returned to the memory pool. So the memory available got lower and lower and lower, until the system ground to a halt.

And there were only two ways to fix the problem. One was the old three-fingered salute. The other was to pick up some sort of utility to do the garbage collection that Windows should've been doing. An example of that is here.

How well does something like that work? I don't know if I frequently encounter that sort of problem (although I probably have...), but I'm both interested and slightly wary about just installing something like that.

They work by pushing everything in active memory into the page file.

It then releases all the memory it allocated, which then allows the OS to repage stuff back in. Due to how paging works under Win9x, it will only page in what it needs too (and is very reluctant to page anything out).

This forces the OS to recheck some types of system resources when it starts paging crap back in.

Those types of apps work much better if you actually close the application after it does it memory allocation thing(and after it has released the memory of course).

ggs wrote:No biggy, only added an extra hour or so to the time it took to install it.

There's a directory called "BOOTDISK" or something like that in the W2K CD.