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Gandalf wrote:

I wish I could get harrassed by religious nutters and superman zelots selling autographs. I feel disadvantaged.

One time, I was walking down a street in Newcastle with about ten or so friends, an old woman called us over, we assumed it was to say hi or to help with something, as she had a lawnmower out.
Once there, she asks, what we were doing, why did we think we were having fun, why her life with God was more fulfilling than ours.
I questioned her, remembering parts of this site, I mentioned the thing about the entrance to King Solomon's mines and Pi bit. She told me to shut up, and that science answered nothing. She then told us to pull our fingers out of our asses and love God, I'ev now studied more of the site, in preparation for meeting her again, we also got about 10 minutes of it on videotape.

Bless you Wong for your Creationism site.

*sob story*
Why cant I meet fundies? everyone else gets to argue with fundies but not me..I havent argued with a fundie in thee years! three years! and people here meet fundies walking down the street, or at parties...they virtually fall out of trees for some people. Am I not enough of an athiest? does my breath stink? do I have bad body odour?
Life is so unfair!
*sob story*

Oh be quiet.. I'm pagan and I get them.. The weirdest one definitely being the Buddhist fundie, but that's not the point!

~ver

Come to vegas. We have hookers and fundies everywhere.

You can't swing a dead cat without hitting one. Odly enough, hookers make for good conversations at traffic pile ups.

Stuart Mackey wrote:

Gandalf wrote:

I wish I could get harrassed by religious nutters and superman zelots selling autographs. I feel disadvantaged.

One time, I was walking down a street in Newcastle with about ten or so friends, an old woman called us over, we assumed it was to say hi or to help with something, as she had a lawnmower out.
Once there, she asks, what we were doing, why did we think we were having fun, why her life with God was more fulfilling than ours.
I questioned her, remembering parts of this site, I mentioned the thing about the entrance to King Solomon's mines and Pi bit. She told me to shut up, and that science answered nothing. She then told us to pull our fingers out of our asses and love God, I'ev now studied more of the site, in preparation for meeting her again, we also got about 10 minutes of it on videotape.

Bless you Wong for your Creationism site.

*sob story*
Why cant I meet fundies? everyone else gets to argue with fundies but not me..I havent argued with a fundie in thee years! three years! and people here meet fundies walking down the street, or at parties...they virtually fall out of trees for some people. Am I not enough of an athiest? does my breath stink? do I have bad body odour?
Life is so unfair!
*sob story*

homeschooldebate.com

*lots* of fundies.

It's a million times better in person though.

true. watching them spazz out and start talking in CAPS is highly amusing.

Enforcer Talen wrote:

Stuart Mackey wrote:

Gandalf wrote: One time, I was walking down a street in Newcastle with about ten or so friends, an old woman called us over, we assumed it was to say hi or to help with something, as she had a lawnmower out.
Once there, she asks, what we were doing, why did we think we were having fun, why her life with God was more fulfilling than ours.
I questioned her, remembering parts of this site, I mentioned the thing about the entrance to King Solomon's mines and Pi bit. She told me to shut up, and that science answered nothing. She then told us to pull our fingers out of our asses and love God, I'ev now studied more of the site, in preparation for meeting her again, we also got about 10 minutes of it on videotape.

Bless you Wong for your Creationism site.

*sob story*
Why cant I meet fundies? everyone else gets to argue with fundies but not me..I havent argued with a fundie in thee years! three years! and people here meet fundies walking down the street, or at parties...they virtually fall out of trees for some people. Am I not enough of an athiest? does my breath stink? do I have bad body odour?
Life is so unfair!
*sob story*

homeschooldebate.com

*lots* of fundies.

Thanks..

Ick, don't bother with HSD... they don't even bother to try to argue, they just use strawmen and WoI tactics over and over and over and over...

DPDarkPrimus wrote:Ick, don't bother with HSD... they don't even bother to try to argue, they just use strawmen and WoI tactics over and over and over and over...

A land bereft of logic and rationality eh?

Gandalf wrote:It's a million times better in person though.

The best confrontation with a fundie takes place in front of one of those self-styled "moderates" who thinks that both sides are bad.

For years, my brother said he doubted me about fundies really being that bad. But finally, I confronted one in front of him, and got her to agree to the chain of fundie logic:

1. On the Day of Judgement, all of the unbelievers will die.
2. It doesn't matter whether they've behaved well in life.
3. God is perfectly righteous.
4. Step #1 is God's will
5. Step #1 is perfectly righteous
6. Therefore, it's righteous to kill all of the Buddhists

When she answered "yes" to the last question, my brother looked away (because he knew her and didn't realize what kind of evil lay beneath the surface). Later, he came to me and said "Holy shit, I can't believe it. It's even worse than you said." He's since reported confronting some other fundies about subjects like that, and getting similar answers.

The ideal confrontation with a fundie will not enlighten you (a fundie, quite frankly, has nothing to teach) and won't enlighten the fundie (his brain is cemented), but it will enlighten bystanders.

Gandalf wrote:I'ev now studied more of the site, in preparation for meeting her again, we also got about 10 minutes of it on videotape.

So wheres the DL link?

That reminds me of that saying

You can bring an elephant to water, but you can't get it to drink (or something like that)

Darth Wong wrote:
The ideal confrontation with a fundie will not enlighten you (a fundie, quite frankly, has nothing to teach) and won't enlighten the fundie (his brain is cemented), but it will enlighten bystanders.

A confrontation with a fundie can amusue you, however.

verilon wrote:

Connor MacLeod wrote:I only get propositioned by religious zealots and nutjobs. Try getting harassed by an overweight guy wearing a superman suit offering to sell you a genuine autograph.

Eh, religious zealots of every brand have approached me. And the nutjobs, too. Nutcases, on the other hand, are another story. [points at his prospect]

~ver

We have this asshole who has "Jesus saves" written out in white tape on the sides of his pea-green jalopy. Which is also covered with religious bumper stickers. Try playing keep away with this funboy.

I had one guy once corner me at the local public Library and lecture me about JEsus and how he was "gathering" evidence that the Library was a secret drug cartel.

DPDarkPrimus wrote:

Gandalf wrote:I'ev now studied more of the site, in preparation for meeting her again, we also got about 10 minutes of it on videotape.

So wheres the DL link?

When I get a copy of it, I'll try to host it.

Anyone know how much space that would take, the ISP I plan to join with allows 10mb.

Connor MacLeod wrote:

verilon wrote:

Connor MacLeod wrote:I only get propositioned by religious zealots and nutjobs. Try getting harassed by an overweight guy wearing a superman suit offering to sell you a genuine autograph.

Eh, religious zealots of every brand have approached me. And the nutjobs, too. Nutcases, on the other hand, are another story. [points at his prospect]

~ver

We have this asshole who has "Jesus saves" written out in white tape on the sides of his pea-green jalopy. Which is also covered with religious bumper stickers. Try playing keep away with this funboy.

Wait until you get a Buddhist fundie to hit you up.. It's definitely odd. Especially for a pagan. I ended up walking away from that with a book just to shut the guy up.

~ver

verilon wrote:Wait until you get a Buddhist fundie to hit you up.. It's definitely odd. Especially for a pagan. I ended up walking away from that with a book just to shut the guy up.

~ver

Precisely what harm does a Buddhist fundie do? I have not heard of any Buddhist fundie groups trying to censor material in school textbooks, suppress education of certain topics in school, or use government legislation to marginalize and oppress those who offend their beliefs.

Darth Wong wrote:

verilon wrote:Wait until you get a Buddhist fundie to hit you up.. It's definitely odd. Especially for a pagan. I ended up walking away from that with a book just to shut the guy up.

~ver

Precisely what harm does a Buddhist fundie do? I have not heard of any Buddhist fundie groups trying to censor material in school textbooks, suppress education of certain topics in school, or use government legislation to marginalize and oppress those who offend their beliefs.

Hehe.. It's actually quite amusing.. It was very odd for me, considering the word "karma" is used for different meanings in the two religions.. And I'm not using "fundie" in the term that it is normally used.. just a generalization of "you're wrong because you're not [insert religion here]."

Anyhow, some guy stopped me while I was on my way to my dorm to switch out books.. I was asked whether I had heard of karma, but it was a different kind of karma than I had heard of.. unfortunately this was almost a year ago, but it still amuses me, even though I can't remember the entire conversation. Odd, though, that he picked me (the one goth in a fairly large crowd of preps) to talk to about this.. hehe.

~ver

Obviously, the correct response to a completely unsolicited harassment about karma is to say something like "you're about to get some bad karma upside the head if you don't leave me alone"

Darth Wong wrote:Obviously, the correct response to a completely unsolicited harassment about karma is to say something like "you're about to get some bad karma upside the head if you don't leave me alone"

Haha.. unfortunately karma is something entirely different to Buddhists, though I forget exactly what it is..

~ver

Homer: "What are you selling."
Apu: "I offer the prospect of Karmic realignment."
Homer: "Karma can only be portioned out by the cosmos."(Shuts door)
Apu: (Think for a second) "He has got me there."

Technically Apu is a Hindu, but I feel it counts.

The best way for dealing with religious fundamentalists I have found
(an actual useful qoute from the Star Wars Shield of Lies trilogy)

'You beliefs are meaningless to me, for I am empowered by my own'

Connor MacLeod wrote:I had one guy once corner me at the local public Library and lecture me about JEsus and how he was "gathering" evidence that the Library was a secret drug cartel.

Did he have any proof that they were dealing drugs, or did he just hate the libraries for some reason?

Anyway, I don't get many fundies in NJ. It's probably because I'm not open about my beliefs, My family doesn't associate with really religous people, and all the churches I went to were more moderate places.