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Posted: 2002-10-24 02:44pm
by Ted
verilon wrote:
IG-88E wrote:Once again, a thread devolves into sexual terms.

*sits back to watch*
Cyril's First Law Strikes Again!!!!
Of course, and Wong will soon turn up to continue the thread.

Posted: 2002-10-24 02:48pm
by haas mark
*sigh* Probably. Or RayCav.

Posted: 2002-10-24 03:02pm
by Ted
Wanna bet which comes first?

I'll say Ray.

Posted: 2002-10-24 03:03pm
by haas mark
Tough one...neither's online...but I'll say Wong. Ray's prolly not even keeping track of this thread...

Posted: 2002-10-24 03:04pm
by haas mark
And then there's Shep....

Posted: 2002-10-24 03:08pm
by MKSheppard
http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/Foru ... 15492.html
I tried to ambush a WIFE Ausf36C (then in "sleep mode") with my 75L/48 yet failed to achieve penetration despite several attempts from both frontal and flank positions. This has never happened to me before! BTS please fix or do somefink!
Once again, this is not a problem with the simulation so much as it is a problem with tactics.

The 75L48 has nothing near the, uhhh, length to achieve frontal or flank penetration on a sleeping target in most cases.

You need to either upgrade to a 75L70, or even a 88L71. The 128 is probably overkill, and can result in partial penetration followed by rejection.

Alternatively, some think that an attack from the rear aspect can, in some cases, result in success using the 75L48, or even the 50L60, although that often requires some cooperation or tactical ineptness from the target.

Jeff Heidman

P.S. If there is a hell, I am going to burn for this.

Posted: 2002-10-24 03:08pm
by haas mark
That was quick...

Posted: 2002-10-24 03:08pm
by Ted
Spoke to soon Verilon.

Posted: 2002-10-24 03:10pm
by haas mark
Ted wrote:Spoke to soon Verilon.
Nay...I said "And then there's Shep..." ANd look who shows up!

Posted: 2002-10-24 03:10pm
by Ted
verilon wrote:
Ted wrote:Spoke to soon Verilon.
Nay...I said "And then there's Shep..." ANd look who shows up!
Meh, were both right.

But still, Ray'll probably pollute the thread the most.

Posted: 2002-10-24 03:11pm
by haas mark
More than likely.

Posted: 2002-10-24 03:11pm
by Ted
Wonder how bad it'll go.

Posted: 2002-10-24 03:13pm
by MKSheppard
Ted wrote:Wonder how bad it'll go.
Did you hear about the Rapist who was freed because he had
a 1 inch penis?

Posted: 2002-10-24 03:14pm
by Ted
MKSheppard wrote:
Ted wrote:Wonder how bad it'll go.
Did you hear about the Rapist who was freed because he had
a 1 inch penis?
Thats not THAT bad.


Was it you Shep? Was that one of the reasons you got out so early?

Posted: 2002-10-24 03:15pm
by MKSheppard
Ted wrote: Was it you Shep? Was that one of the reasons you got out so early?
Nah, just your typical liberal touchie feely judge.... :twisted:

Posted: 2002-10-24 03:16pm
by haas mark
MKSheppard wrote:
Ted wrote: Was it you Shep? Was that one of the reasons you got out so early?
Nah, just your typical liberal touchie feely judge.... :twisted:
:shock:

Posted: 2002-10-24 03:16pm
by Ted
verilon wrote:
MKSheppard wrote:
Ted wrote: Was it you Shep? Was that one of the reasons you got out so early?
Nah, just your typical liberal touchie feely judge.... :twisted:
:shock:
Gos Shep, thats worse than my comment.

Posted: 2002-10-24 03:17pm
by MKSheppard
OOOOH

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... TopStories

U.S. fundraiser held for 'friendly-fire' pilots

The two U.S. pilots being blamed for the deaths of Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan were hailed as heroes Wednesday night at a fundraising dinner in their honour in Illinois.

More than 400 people came to the $50-a-person event in honour of Maj. Harry Schmidt and Maj. William Umbach. The two men face six-figure legal bills as they fight charges of involuntary manslaughter, aggravated assault and dereliction of duty.

The charges stem from the accidental bombing last April of Canadian troops from Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry. The troops were conducting a live-fire training exercise in Afghanistan when Schmidt dropped a 225-kilogram bomb on what he thought was hostile fire.

Four Canadian soldiers were killed and eight injured.

Both the Canadian and the joint Canada-U.S. inquiry into the bombing accused Schmidt and Umbach, who were flying a routine mission over southern Afghanistan at the time, of not following procedure before dropping the bomb. The pilots say they weren't told about the Canadian training exercise in the area that night.

On Wednesday night, Illinois Gov. George Ryan put his full support behind the two pilots, who are members of the Illinois Air National Guard's 183rd Fighter Wing.

"I know these two fellows and I know their wives. They're not people who commit manslaughter," Ryan said, speaking outside his official residence. "They didn't do this on purpose. They're solid, sound citizens.

"They're not cowboys."

It seems some Canadians have also given the pilots their support in the form of donations to their defence fund. Some came with the message: "Drop the charges."

"It shouldn't destroy more lives," says fundraiser John Russo.

Schmidt and Umbach face a military trial at the Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana late this year or early next year. An Article 32 hearing will determine if the charges will be pursued. For now, they have been reassigned to desk duty.

The two men have not commented publicly on the charges against them. However, family members have.

Schmidt's wife, Lisa, said in a recent interview her husband was "in shock" and "struggling" with grief the day of the accident. She said she fears that her husband, along with his flight lead Umbach, will spend the rest of his life in jail.

"Don't put them in jail. Don't charge them as criminals. Don't tell them they're criminals when they didn't do a criminal act," she said.

On Thursday, Canada AM will have an exclusive interview with Umbach's brother, Bob.

Posted: 2002-10-24 03:18pm
by haas mark
Not even going to read it.

Posted: 2002-10-24 03:20pm
by Ted
They should be charged.

They were ordered to hold fire and wait for confirmation.
They ignored that and bombed anyways. In any books thats grounds for punishment.